[Senate Hearing 110-582] [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office] S. Hrg. 110-582 CONSOLIDATION IN THE PENNSYLVANIA HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY: THE RIGHT PRESCRIPTION? ======================================================================= HEARING before the SUBCOMMITTEE ON ANTITRUST, COMPETITION POLICY AND CONSUMER RIGHTS of the COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED TENTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION __________ JULY 31, 2008 __________ Serial No. J-110-115 __________ Printed for the use of the Committee on the Judiciary ---------- U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 45-007 PDF WASHINGTON : 2008 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512-1800; DC area (202) 512-1800 Fax: (202) 512-2104 Mail: Stop IDCC, Washington, DC 20402-0001 COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY PATRICK J. LEAHY, Vermont, Chairman EDWARD M. KENNEDY, Massachusetts ARLEN SPECTER, Pennsylvania JOSEPH R. BIDEN, Jr., Delaware ORRIN G. HATCH, Utah HERB KOHL, Wisconsin CHARLES E. GRASSLEY, Iowa DIANNE FEINSTEIN, California JON KYL, Arizona RUSSELL D. FEINGOLD, Wisconsin JEFF SESSIONS, Alabama CHARLES E. SCHUMER, New York LINDSEY O. GRAHAM, South Carolina RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois JOHN CORNYN, Texas BENJAMIN L. CARDIN, Maryland SAM BROWNBACK, Kansas SHELDON WHITEHOUSE, Rhode Island TOM COBURN, Oklahoma Bruce A. Cohen, Chief Counsel and Staff Director Stephanie A. Middleton, Republican Staff Director Nicholas A. Rossi, Republican Chief Counsel ------ Subcommittee on Antitrust, Competition Policy and Consumer Rights HERB KOHL, Wisconsin, Chairman PATRICK J. LEAHY, Vermont ORRIN G. HATCH, Utah JOSEPH R. BIDEN, Jr., Delaware ARLEN SPECTER, Pennsylvania RUSSELL D. FEINGOLD, Wisconsin CHARLES E. GRASSLEY, Iowa CHARLES E. SCHUMER, New York SAM BROWNBACK, Kansas BENJAMIN L. CARDIN, Maryland TOM COBURN, Oklahoma Jeffrey Miller, Chief Counsel William Castle, Republican Chief Counsel C O N T E N T S ---------- STATEMENTS OF COMMITTEE MEMBERS Page Kohl, Hon. Herb, a U.S. Senator from the State of Wisconsin...... 1 prepared statement........................................... 139 Specter, Hon. Arlen, a U.S. Senator from the State of Pennsylvania................................................... 2 WITNESSES Allen, Henry S., Jr., Counsel, Private Sector Advcacy Department, American Medical Association, Chicago, Illinois................ 17 Balto, David, Senior Fellow, Center for American Progress, Washington, D.C................................................ 15 Frick, Joseph A., President and Chief Executive Officer, Independence Blue Cross, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania............ 8 Harris, Barry D., Board Chairman, Economists, Inc., Washington, D.C............................................................ 19 Laign, Michael B., President and Chief Executive Officer, Holy Redeemer Health System, Huntington Valley, Pennsylvania........ 14 Marshall, Samuel, President, Insurance Federation of Pennsylvania, Inc., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania................. 12 Melani, Kenneth R., M.D., President and Chief Executive Officer, Highmark Inc., Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania........................ 4 Miller, Henry, Managing Director, Navigant Consulting, Inc., Washington, D.C., on behalf of UPMC Health Plan................ 20 Scanlan, Carolyn F., President and Chief Executive Officer, the Hospital and Healthsystem Association of Pennsylvania, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania....................................... 10 QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS Responses of Henry S. Allen to questions submitted by Senator Specter........................................................ 35 Responses of David Balto to questions submitted by Senator Specter........................................................ 51 Responses of Joseph Frick to questions submitted by Senator Specter........................................................ 53 Responses of Barry C. Harris to questions submitted by Senator Specter........................................................ 58 Responses of Samuel R. Marshall to questions submitted by Senator Specter........................................................ 69 Responses of Kenneth R. Melani, M.D., to questions submitted by Senator Specter................................................ 72 Responses of Carolyn F. Scanlan to questions submitted by Senator Specter........................................................ 79 SUBMISSIONS FOR THE RECORD Allen, Henry S., Jr., Counsel, Private Sector Advcacy Department, American Medical Association, Chicago, Illinois, statement and attachments.................................................... 86 Balto, David, Senior Fellow, Center for American Progress, Washington, D.C, statement..................................... 109 Frick, Joseph A., President and Chief Executive Officer, Independence Blue Cross, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, statement. 122 Harris, Barry D., Board Chairman, Economists, Inc., Washington, D.C., statement................................................ 130 Holder, Diane, President and CEO, UPMC Health Plan and Insurance Services Division, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, statement......... 140 Laign, Michael B., President and Chief Executive Officer, Holy Redeemer Health System, Huntington Valley, Pennsylvania, statement...................................................... 152 Marshall, Samuel, President, Insurance Federation of Pennsylvania, Inc., Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, statement and attachment..................................................... 157 Melani, Kenneth R., M.D., President and Chief Executive Officer, Highmark Inc., Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, statement............. 181 Miller, Henry, Managing Director, Navigant Consulting, Inc., Washington, D.C., statement.................................... 189 Scanlan, Carolyn F., President and Chief Executive Officer, the Hospital and Healthsystem Association of Pennsylvania, Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, statement and attachment............. 194 WellNet Healthcare, Harry Kovar, CEO, Southampton, Pennsylvania, statement...................................................... 210 CONSOLIDATION IN THE PENNSYLVANIA HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY: THE RIGHT PRESCRIPTION? ---------- THURSDAY, JULY 31, 2008 U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Antitrust, Competition Policy and Consumer Rights, Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C. The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 2:17 p.m., in room SD-226, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Herb Kohl, Chairman of the Subcommittee, presiding. Present: Senators Kohl and Specter. OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. HERB KOHL, A U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF WISCONSIN Chairman Kohl. Good afternoon to one and all. Today we will be examining the consolidation in the health insurance market with the proposed merger of the two largest health insurers in Pennsylvania--Highmark and Independence Blue Cross. We are holding this hearing at the specific request of my colleague for whom I have the very highest regard, Senator Arlen Specter. As this merger most directly impacts Pennsylvania residents, I have asked him to preside over today's hearing, and he will. After the merger, these two insurers' combined market share in Pennsylvania is estimated to be more than 70 percent. Allowing a single health insurer to gain such a high market share in Pennsylvania obviously raises significant competition concerns for the citizens of that Commonwealth, especially since these two companies apparently agreed not to compete a year ago. But it is also important that we consider competition in health insurance across the country. As health insurance costs continue to rise, consumers face ever increasing premiums. At the same time, we hear complaints from physicians and hospitals of declining reimbursements and take-it-or-leave-it contracts that negatively affect patient care. New competitors face high barriers to entry, so allowing high levels of concentration can have serious and lasting effects for many years to come as the stats point to substantial evidence of rising consolidation in an already high concentrated health insurance market. In 299 of the 313 metropolitan areas studied by the American Medical Association last year, health insurance was a highly concentrated insurance under Justice Department guidelines. The number of health insurers nationwide has fallen by 20 percent since the year 2000, and this has clearly contributed to rising insurance rates. The AMA study found insurance rates were 12 percent lower in States with more competitive choices. The burden of ever rising insurance rates is borne particularly heavily by small businesses who find it increasingly difficult to offer health insurance for their own employees. And the problem of increasing concentration is compounded by the failure of the Justice Department to enforce the antitrust law in this insurance. According to the 2007 AMA study, in the last 12 years, out of 400 health insurance mergers, the Justice Department challenged only two. Vigorous competition in health insurance is essential to lowering health insurance premiums for consumers, for businesses, and to assuring adequate payments to health care providers. We on the Antitrust Subcommittee will pay close attention to competition in health insurance markets in the months ahead. We will consider holding hearings on health insurance competition at the national level. We plan to ask the GAO to study the impact of consolidation on rising health insurance prices. For all these reasons, today's hearing is a particularly relevant one for our Subcommittee, and I thank Senator Specter for his work on this very important issue. And so we now turn the gavel over to Senator Arlen Specter to preside at this hearing. Senator Specter. STATEMENT OF HON. ARLEN SPECTER, A U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA Senator Specter. [Presiding.] Well, thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate the outstanding work you have done on the Antitrust Subcommittee of Judiciary and the outstanding work you have done as the senior Senator from Wisconsin now for 20 years. It has been quite a responsibility, and you and I have worked together generally and on the Judiciary Committee, and this is a very important hearing, and I very much appreciate your authorizing it and turning the gavel over to me. Last year, I was Chairman of the Committee. I was about to say I ``owned the gavel,'' but you do not own anything in the U.S. Senate. It is all leased, 6 years at a time. And now I have it for part of the afternoon. So it is nice to have, and I will use it sparingly, and I hope effectively. As Senator Kohl has outlined, this is a very important hearing. The issue of health care in America is a dominant factor. Estimates nationally run as high as $1.7 trillion in health care expenses, and we have a situation where it is estimated that some 47 million Americans do not have health insurance. And no one knows better than I about the importance of good health. As you can tell, a Pennsylvania cable network is carrying this. People within the room can see it better, how pale and bald and thin I am compared to the way I used to be. I am just finished a bout of chemotherapy for Hodgkin's, and my slogan is: ``It is tough, but tolerable.'' But it is a rugged process. And I have had more comments about my hair style than I have about my positions on public policy. I have had some suggestions that I should wear a toupee, and I have rejected that. Some people say I should shave my head and become a sex symbol like Joe Frick or Henry Miller. [Laughter.] Senator Specter. And I have rejected that also on the ground that--two grounds: number 1, my wife is opposed to it; and, number 2, I am not qualified. So I will let nature take its course. I was very deferential to Senator Kohl in not bringing him into Mr. Frick and Dr. Miller's categories here. But in a very, very serious vein, it is a major matter. I note that the Department of Justice has given approval to the merger. I know that it is under consideration by the Insurance Department in Pennsylvania. And Congress has a keen interest with the Judiciary Committee and the Antitrust Subcommittee. We are aware of the considerations of economies which have been represented about what can be saved if there is a merger of Highmark and Independence Blue Cross. We are concerned at the same time about the market share. The projection has been made that Independence Blue Cross has about 30 percent of the market in the East, principally, and the estimate as to Highmark ranges from 27 to 42 percent of the market, so that competitors have a hill to climb, and perhaps a steep hill, and we will talk about that. Some of the competitors in the West have thought that the combination between UPMC and Highmark made it difficult for entry, and UPMC has taken a position in opposition. I have been interested to see that Temple University Medical System and the University of Pennsylvania have not taken a position. The Hospital Association has and the doctors' associations have. So there are a lot of competing interests. We had a hearing on this matter in Philadelphia last year, and we thought it would be a good idea to convene another hearing and to explore these very important issues. Senator Casey could not make the hearing today. He has been invited to attend, and I know he will be following it very closely because it is a big, big matter for Pennsylvania. You see the lights we have here. Green means you are within the first 4 minutes, and yellow means you are within the last minute; and when the red sign goes on, it means you are supposed to stop talking. We have a big panel today, and we had started with six witnesses, and I wanted to add two more besides Dr. Melani and Mr. Frick, who were in favor of the merger, to have a balanced presentation. So with my red light about to go on, 5 seconds left, I would ask all of you to stand and raise your right hands. Do you affirm or swear that the testimony you are about to give before this Committee, this Subcommittee, will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God? Dr. Melani. I do. Mr. Frick. I do. Ms. Scanlan. I do. Mr. Marshall. I do. Mr. Laign. I do. Mr. Balto. I do. Mr. Allen. I do. Mr. Harris. I do. Senator Specter. May the record show that each of the witnesses has answers in the affirmative. Our first witness today is Dr. Kenneth Melani, who is the Chief Executive Officer of Highmark. He began his career with the company in 1989 as a corporate medical director in the Medical Affairs Department, graduated summa cum laude from Washington and Jefferson College with a bachelor's degree in chemistry and biology, and received his M.D. from Wake Forest University. Thank you for joining us today, Dr. Melani, and we look forward to your testimony. STATEMENT OF KENNETH R. MELANI, M.D., PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, HIGHMARK INC., PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA Dr. Melani. Thank you, Senator, and good afternoon. My name is Dr. Ken Melani, and I am the President and Chief Executive Officer of Highmark. With me is Joe Frick, the President and Chief Executive Officer of Independence Blue Cross. We want to thank the Committee for the opportunity to speak to you today about why the proposed combination of Highmark and Independence Blue Cross into a new company is good for Pennsylvania and how it will create value for the communities in which we operate, for our customers, for health care providers, and, most of all, for the people of Pennsylvania. Since we spoke to the Senate Judiciary Committee in April 2007, we have been engaged in an extensive review process involving State and Federal regulatory agencies, with input from State and Federal public officials. This is an important, cooperative, and open process. Today, we continue this open dialog about how this combination will better serve the needs of the people of Pennsylvania. Our companies have a proud tradition of serving Pennsylvania as not-for-profit companies. For 70 years, IBC and Highmark have had a common mission: to help ensure that health care is available, affordable, and of high quality for all Pennsylvanians. Throughout our history, we have made health insurance programs available to everyone, regardless of age, gender, and health status. We have provided assistance to people in financial need, by subsidizing health insurance programs for children, lower-income individuals and families, and older adults. Moreover, we have provided financial support for health education and community health programs. At the same time, according to a study performed by a market research firm, Tripp-Umbach, Highmark and IBC have had a significant, positive impact on Pennsylvania, with a total annual economic impact of $4.2 billion on the State's economy. The companies employ approximately 18,000 people in high- quality jobs in the State and purchase a significant amount of goods and services from Pennsylvania-based companies. This transaction, however, is not about the past or the present. It is about the future and about preserving our nonprofit status. And it is about laying the foundation for positive change in the way health care is delivered and paid for in Pennsylvania. Coming together, our two companies can remain a financially vibrant Pennsylvania-based company and achieve tangible savings and growth opportunities of more than $1 billion that will be used to address health care costs, quality, and access to medical care in Pennsylvania. This combination will also allow us to strengthen our contribution to the Pennsylvania economy--by the way we employ people, by creating new businesses opportunities for Pennsylvania-based businesses, and by supporting the community through programs and services that we have historically embraced. The proposed combination is important given the challenging health environment that exists today. Health care costs are rising dramatically. We know that the cost of health care is making health insurance less affordable for businesses today. As a result, fewer businesses are able to maintain health care coverage, and more people are going to the ranks of the uninsured. We are also seeing more people moving to public health insurance programs, which means more health care coverage is being financed through Federal and State government programs. The demographics of Pennsylvania also present challenges. The State has an aging population that is creating more demand for health care services. We also have an aging workforce in many industries, including health care. This places an added strain on the health care system as the aging population uses more medical services. Questions are also being raised about the quality of health care today and the variation in medical care from community to community for people with the same medical conditions. With these critical issues facing us across Pennsylvania and nationally, rapid change is occurring in health care. Consumers are taking a greater responsibility for their personal health care decisions and their costs. This change is creating the need for investments in technology so people can access their own personal health information and have programs available to better manage their own health. As these forces shape health care, two points have become very critical to business success. First, scale has become increasingly important to achieve greater efficiency and lower administrative costs. The scale of competition has shifted from a local to a regional and now a national basis. We have a growing need to be a multi-product, multi-market company to compete in the future, to spread our risks, and to better serve our customers. Second, there is a growing need for capital for investments to meet the marketplace demands that I outlined earlier. The health insurance industry is responding by consolidating. In the past 15 years, the top 20 insurers have substantially increased their share of subscribers in the commercial health insurance market. Even more significant, during the same period, large, well-capitalized for-profit insurers have gained a much larger share of commercial health insurance subscribers compared to not-for-profit health insurance companies. The largest players in health care today are WellPoint, United HealthCare, Aetna, and CIGNA, and anywhere from 13 million up to 35 million subscribers reside in each of these companies. They have the scale, the product diversity, and the geographic diversity to spread their operating costs over more subscribers. They also can leverage their large subscriber base to obtain better pricing from national suppliers of laboratory services, durable medical equipment, radiology services, and pharmaceuticals--in contrast to Highmark and IBC who have, combined, 8 million members. Consolidation is not unique to the for-profit health insurance companies. It is happening in the Blue Cross/Blue Shield system in the United States as well. Today, there are 39 independent Blue Cross and Blue Shield companies. That is a third the number since 1980, when there were 115 such companies. In fact, Blue Cross/Blue Shield companies operate in multiple States. These companies have gained operating efficiencies and can better serve their customers. And Pennsylvania stands alone in that we have four independent Blue Cross/Blue Shield companies. It is problematic because we are operating less efficiently than we could be by investing in redundant technologies and capabilities that add more cost to the health care system. As the two companies have looked at the changing health care environment and the need for greater scale and more capital, it has become clear that the combination of IBC and Highmark is a natural fit that would bring significant benefits to the people of Pennsylvania. The two companies have almost identical missions and have worked together for over 50 years to better serve the community, through programs like the Caring Foundation. We also have complementary products. Highmark's vision, dental, and stop loss lines of business complement IBC's pharmacy benefit management-- Senator Specter. Dr. Melani, how much longer will you require? Dr. Melani. About 30 seconds. Senator Specter. Go ahead. Dr. Melani. Complement IBC's pharmacy benefit management, third-party administration, and workers' compensation programs. Together, our two companies can offer a core blend of products to better serve our customers on a common platform. What is most important is that bringing our companies together will not lessen competition in the commercial health insurance market or reduce choice in any market in Pennsylvania in the future. Our subscribers will continue to have the same wide variety of choice from a competitive health insurance market as they have today. Although over 100 witnesses appeared at the recent Pennsylvania Insurance Department hearings--and many others have filed comments with the Insurance Department--we are not aware that any of our over 50,000 commercial customers have complained that they will have less choice for insurance the day after the transaction than they have today. And, last, as you both well know and have articulated, the United States Department of Justice has twice reviewed this transaction for consolidation of the two companies and both times cleared the transaction under the Federal antitrust laws. I thank you very much. I am going to turn it over to Joe to talk about the benefits of the consolidation. [The prepared statement of Dr. Melani appears as a submission for the record.] Senator Specter. I am going to ask everybody who testifies to stay within the time limit. Nine witnesses and a question- and-answer session, which is very important, is going to run us very late. So please stay within the time limit. Dr. Melani, I do not intend to pursue questions after each witness, but I have listened to your testimony, and some of the generalizations you have made might be relevant to a concern on my mind. But I do not hear you addressing the fundamental question as to whether this merger, which purports to have economies of scale, has the potential to lower the premiums for health insurance, it will cost less for people to buy health insurance. How about that? That is what the consumers are interested in. How much is it going to cost them? Did you address that in your opening statement? Dr. Melani. Senator, I did not get into the detail, but Joe has some of that in his comments. Senator Specter. Never mind the detail. Is it going to result in lower cost to the consumer? Dr. Melani. It will result in lower administrative cost to the consumer. We are guaranteeing that we will fix our administrative fees flat for 2 years. The difficulty with the remaining part of health care costs is the variables; 90 percent of the health care costs are really in the provider side of the equation in units used and units paid, and it is very difficult to put a cap on what happens in the cost of health care on that side of the equation with so many unknown variables in that side. But the part we do control, which is administrative cost, we absolutely will guarantee a benefit in lower premium from that perspective. Other things that we will do we hope will help with the other part of the health care cost equation, like investments in new technology, disease management, and other capabilities. Senator Specter. Dr. Melani, candidly, I do not understand much of what you just said. Talking about variables, talking about administrative costs, I heard you say the administrative costs will be reduced and that will have an impact on premiums. Well, administrative costs are only one aspect of a very, very big picture. I would like to see you tell this Subcommittee--if not this afternoon, later--what is the impact going to be to the consumer. I am going to come to--I do not consider that a detail. But we will listen to what Mr. Frick has to say about it. But I think we need something a lot more specific on that point because that is the whole issue. The generalization of administrative costs being reduced and that being passed on to the consumer is not the big-ticket item. We turn now to Mr. Joseph Frick, elected President and CEO of Independence Blue Cross in January of 2005, previously was Senior Vice President. Prior to joining IBC, he was Vice President of Human Resources at Philadelphia Newspapers, Inc.; received his undergraduate degree from the University of Notre Dame and an MBA from Loyola College. The floor is yours, Mr. Frick, for 5 minutes. STATEMENT OF JOSEPH A. FRICK, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, INDEPENDENCE BLUE CROSS, PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA Mr. Frick. Thank you, Senator, and I appreciate the opportunity to be before the Committee as well. As Ken said, our two organization have a proud tradition of serving our subscribers and our local communities as Blue plans, and we know we have a responsibility to promote the value and enhance the trust of the Blue brand, which serves more than one in three Americans. So while coming together is a logical extension of our historical partnership, we believe that the growth opportunities, the efficiencies, and the savings will enable us to achieve several real and important goals. And as you just articulated, first and foremost, we are committed to help make health insurance more affordable. It is the number 1 issue with our subscribers; we have a responsibility to do better on that issue. At the same time that our subscribers are demanding that we control costs, they also want us to invest in products and in services to help improve quality and health and health care outcomes and expand our efforts in promotion and wellness programs. Physicians, hospitals, and health care providers, who we pay 88 cents back for every dollar of premium that we take in from our customers, they are valued partners in our companies' mission of assuring access to high-quality networks of providers. And we are committed to maintaining these well- established relationships and enhancing incentives to ensure the delivery of high-quality care and keeping costs manageable. We will continue to be a viable and successful leader in our communities, and we expect to generate new business, which can bring more jobs to Pennsylvania and stimulate additional business opportunities for Pennsylvania-based business. Finally, we need to be more effective and use technology, and this combination will enable us to be a company that is easier for our subscribers and providers to do business with. And by combining our two companies--and only by combining our two companies--will we be able to generate over $1 billion in additional economic benefits over 6 years. And this is new money beyond any commitments that our two companies have today. These dollars will be generated by business efficiencies and growth opportunities that our companies could not produce individually. And unlike with consolidations of for-profit, publicly held companies, we pledge that every dollar of these economic benefits will go back to improving health care in Pennsylvania. In addition to this $1 billion, we voluntarily agreed to extend the Community Health Reinvestment Agreement with the Commonwealth for an additional 3 years, an estimated $350 million that can be used to help more Pennsylvanians obtain health care coverage. So for our subscribers, as Ken said, we pledge to freeze the administrative fees for 2 years. This represents $295 million in tangible savings. With our new pharmacy business, we believe we can save another $285 million on prescription drug costs which goes directly back to our customers. We expect that an estimated $100 million of the efficiencies will be used to fund expanded health care quality programs--ePrescribing, personal health records, electronic medical records. Use of these tools leads to higher-quality care, fewer medication errors, and that does result in greater savings to subscribers in the long run. We will expand the best of the health promotion and wellness programs offered by our two companies, which will enable a healthier workforce to be more productive, consume fewer health services. We are proud of our longstanding relationships with physicians, hospitals, and providers. The value of our brand is based on the fact that we offer our customers high-quality provider networks, and they will remain important partners with us in the future. In the past few years, IBC and Highmark have invested in technology and pioneered a tool called NaviNet to simplify administrative transactions with physicians and hospitals. We will build on this capability so that physician offices and hospitals can spend more time to improve patient outcomes, patient safety, the health and wellness of their patients, and worry less about administrative tasks. And here is one very important point about providers. Not one dollar of the $1 billion in net economic benefits will result in any reductions in provider reimbursements. Over the past few years, Highmark and IBC have developed close working relationships with hospitals and physicians, partnerships focused on improving safety and reducing prescribing errors. The new company will expand these partnerships. Last, let me talk about how the consolidation will benefit our local communities. Last year, our two companies committed over $200 million in programs in the community, funding clinics and nurse scholarships, programs to reduce childhood obesity. And the new company intends to take all of these initiatives statewide. So together these commitments total $1 billion in new money, plus $350 million, in the Community Health Reinvestment Agreement. The consolidation is important for us to remain a viable, not-for-profit company to strengthen our commitment to the community and the economy of Pennsylvania. Do we expect to grow our business? Absolutely. And this business growth will be beneficial to Pennsylvania. No one company can solve the health care problems of this country alone, but we believe together this consolidation does lead to a pathway for positive change for 10 Pennsylvania and all of our Pennsylvania communities. Thank you both very much for your time and attention. [The prepared statement of Mr. Frick appears as a submission for the record.] Senator Specter. Well, thank you, Mr. Frick. You list a large number of innovations which you propose, and you say that they will be savings to subscribers in the long run. But I am still looking for something specific on savings now in the short run or within a year or two. You talk about $1 million in economic benefits over a 6- year period. But the question in my mind is: Where is that going to go? When we talk in the question-and-answer session later, we will get into the $4 billion in reserves which Highmark has and the $2 billion in reserves which Independence Blue Cross has. And the question on my mind is: How much of this $1 billion that you are going to save over 6 years is going to go into reserves and how much is going to go to reduce premiums? I think if you talk about reduced premiums, you have a much more attractive proposition. When you have savings, economies of scale, that is really the money that comes out of the pocket of people, and reduced premiums allow more people to be covered. And you have a great many programs where you decide on the allocations of money, and you give the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania some money. But the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania has many sources of funds. You talk about people who pay your premiums. This Subcommittee is interested to know what savings there would be for them and what lower premiums would enable more people to have health insurance, would not have to go looking for it someplace else. Well, those are matters which I would like you to address, Mr. Frick, and we will come back to it in the question-and- answer session. Our next witness is Ms. Carolyn Scanlan, the President and CEO of The Hospital and Healthsystem Association of Pennsylvania since 1995; undergraduate degree from Skidmore College and a master's degree in health services administration from Russell Sage College. Thank you for joining us, Ms. Scanlan, and we look forward to your testimony within 5 minutes. STATEMENT OF CAROLYN F. SCANLAN, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, THE HOSPITAL AND HEALTHSYSTEM ASSOCIATION OF PENNSYLVANIA, HARRISBURG, PENNSYLVANIA Ms. Scanlan. Thank you, Senator Specter, and thank you, Chairman Kohl, for allowing us the opportunity to speak today. As you know, Senator, the association represents and advocates for the more than 250 hospitals in Pennsylvania, and we appreciate the opportunity to present our views in regard to the proposed merger. Over the past year, the association has raised questions and concerns with both Federal and State officials regarding the proposed merger of these two plans and has called for a thorough review by Government. Most recently, in hearings before the Pennsylvania Commissioner of Insurance, we have taken the position of opposition as this merger is currently proposed. We think it is important for the regulators to review the current health insurance marketplace in Pennsylvania, which we believe is already skewed toward Highmark and Independence Blue Cross' advantage, and a merger would create a health plan with an overwhelming presence or ``footprint'' across the Commonwealth. We have expressed four areas of concern, two of which are germane to this hearing. The four areas are the issues around competition, provider contracting, social and community mission, and health insurer accountability. The first two--competition and provider contracting-would fall under the auspices of the Federal agencies, and we were disappointed that another early termination of review was granted to the plans by the Department of Justice. With the amount of penetration of already insured people contained within these two plans--and Chairman Kohl and you both referenced those numbers--we have continued concern about the consolidation. Market competition in health insurance is important, we believe, in achieving competitive premiums--I think as you have pointed out, Senator Specter--for employed groups and, from the perspective of hospitals, competitive payments to health care providers. Both Highmark and Independence Blue Cross already enjoy dominant positions, which make it difficult for that kind of competitive payment. I am going to leave it to others on this panel to discuss the underlying legal issues of competition, monopoly, and monopsony, which I know that their testimonies will cover. But it is the concern of hospitals and physicians regarding the monopsony power that it has not been properly analyzed and evaluated and serve as a center of HAP's concerns regarding the impact this merger will have. And so at the State level--and we would have, before the Department of Justice, also asked for very specific issues in regard to provider contracting, most- favored-nation issues, all product clauses. We are asking for the ability for providers to jointly negotiate, concerns about the development of an arbitration process, and, last, issues around allowing clinically and financially integrated organizations to negotiate as a unit with the merged plan. There are three things that we think that this Subcommittee, that you, Senator, could address in the near future. The first is that we would request a briefing from the Antitrust Division as to why the Division failed to thoroughly investigate the merger. As you know, they do not have to issue any kind of detail on their review, and that would be helpful. Second, the line of case law that permits the type of market allocation the Blues are involved in is still an unsettled law of antitrust law. And we would ask, in addition to Chairman Kohl's request of the GAO to look at rising health insurance prices, that the GAO also do a study looking at the state of the law in this area and whether Congress needs to ensure that joint ventures that undermine competition, such as the Blues' process of licensure, would be also reviewed from the perspective of competition in the marketplace. And then, third, as you, along with Chairman Kohl, your colleague on the Subcommittee Senator Grassley, as well as other colleagues in the Senate, Senator Durbin and Senator Whitehouse, said to the FTC, we would ask that both the Department of Justice and the FTC take immediate action to approve the hospitals' request for more guidance on clinical integration by approving in some manner the working paper that was recently developed by a group of antitrust luminaries on behalf of the AHA. The rest is clearly contained in my testimony, and so I thank you for the opportunity to ask for these three items today. [The prepared statement of Ms. Scanlan appears as a submission for the record.] Senator Specter. Ms. Scanlan, I note that neither the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania nor Temple has taken a position here, and when the times comes for Q&A, I would like you to comment on the solidity of the Hospital Association and the opposition which you have articulated. Our next witness is Mr. Samuel Marshall, President and CEO of the Insurance Federation of Pennsylvania. He has served as counsel to the Insurance Commissioner, previously chief counsel to the Medical Catastrophic Loss Trust Fund; bachelor's degree from Haverford and law degree from Villanova. Thank you for coming in today, Mr. Marshall, and we look forward to your testimony, 5 minutes. STATEMENT OF SAMUEL MARSHALL, PRESIDENT, INSURANCE FEDERATION OF PENNSYLVANIA, INC., PHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA Mr. Marshall. Thank you. Sam Marshall with the Insurance Federation of Pennsylvania. We represent the commercial carriers that we have been talking about obliquely. We represent them in all lines of coverage. I do not think consolidations are inherently good or bad, whether for competition or consumers. I do think that this one, absent the conditions that we and others have recommended, will be bad on both counts. The underlying question is whether competition, even more so than consolidation, is good or bad. And I do think that this consolidation will impact competition First off, it gets rid of the potential for Highmark and IBC to compete with each other. They may not intend to do that now under current management, but managements change. Second, it is going to make it more difficult for other insurers to compete. There is a lot of talk about the ability of other carriers to raise capital. Capital only goes into markets that are open and viable. As you have a dominant, an increasingly dominant market in Pennsylvania, that does not attract capital for the smaller players. But going to the question of is competition good or bad, it is a legitimate question in the world of health reform. I think that competition is a hallmark of any viable insurance marketplace. I think it makes sure that consumers have choices. I also think it makes sure that insurers, no matter how big or small, face both the opportunities and the penalties that come from either answering or failing to answer consumer demands. I am a Pennsylvania-centric person, so I will talk about it in terms of examples that we have seen in Pennsylvania over the last 20 years. In our Commonwealth, veritably every line of insurance has faced the same problems that you see in health insurance now, namely, consumers not getting the coverage they want at a price they can afford. The only answer that has worked in all other lines has been to foster competition. The most prominent example, especially for those from Philadelphia, is our auto marketplace. Back in the 1980s, it was a very limited and expensive market. A number of reforms were tried. The only one that worked was a law in 1990 that was spearheaded by the late Governor Robert Casey, hardly an ally of the insurance industry. But he recognized the need to encourage and reward new carriers, new ideas, and more competition. As a result, over the past 18 years, the rates have been flat, and there has been broad availability of coverage for all drivers. Would that we had the same result in health insurance. It has worked in other lines, too. The second more prominent example in Pennsylvania would be workers' compensation insurance. Again, it faced many of the same problems you see in health insurance now. They enacted reforms that brought in new carriers, new ideas and more competition. And that has worked well in that market. What we have not seen in Pennsylvania are reforms that have encouraged competition in health insurance, and I think that is one of the main reasons we have not seen anywhere near the progress that consumers need. I do recognize that competition alone is not the only answer, but I would say that if you do not have a strongly competitive health insurance market, all the best intentions, whether they come from Highmark and Independence Blue Cross or from smaller carriers, you simply do not have the cattle prod of the consumers choice making sure that they come to fruition. Again, I do not think that means that consolidations, even those of this magnitude, are inherently flawed or fatal to the prospect of competition; but I do think that consolidations, especially of this magnitude, have to be scrutinized and only approved if they come with the types of conditions that we and others have recommended in the proceedings before the Insurance Department. One note in closing: There was an op-ed piece in Sunday's New York Times by William Poole of the Cato Institute on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and I do not get down to Washington much, but I know that is a great debate here. What he talked about was the danger that we are all seeing across the country in allowing a crucial market to have only two operators. And he pointed out that ``markets work best when numerous firms compete against each other.'' I think that is worth remembering here: Any market that becomes a private monopoly is in danger of becoming a hostage to that monopoly, no matter how extensive or well intentioned the regulatory oversight. It is not just that competition gets stifled, and with it the pressure to do better. It is that consumers can be harmed by the absence of the checks, balances, and safety valves that come from a competitive market. Thank you for the chance to be here. I am happy to answer any questions. [The prepared statement of Mr. Marshall appears as a submission for the record.] Senator Specter. Thank you very much, Mr. Marshall. Our next witness is Mr. Michael Laign, President and CEO of the Holy Redeemer Health System, located in Huntingdon Valley, Pennsylvania; previously served as Executive Vice President of the Frankford Health Care System; bachelor's degree from the University of Pittsburgh and an MBA in hospital and health care administration from Temple. Thank you for coming in today, Mr. Laign, and we look forward to your testimony, 5 minutes. STATEMENT OF MICHAEL B. LAIGN, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, HOLY REDEEMER HEALTH SYSTEM, HUNTINGDON VALLEY, PENNSYLVANIA Mr. Laign. Thanks for having me here. Holy Redeemer Health System is a nonprofit organization which provides a wide range of health care and health-related services, including an acute care hospital, home health and hospice services in Pennsylvania and New Jersey, two skilled nursing facilities, assisted living, a retirement community, low-income housing, an active living community, and a transitional housing and resocialization program for homeless women and children in North Philadelphia. We employ over 4,000 people. Every day, we touch 20,000 individuals. Twenty-five percent of our revenue is derived from IBC and/or IBC family of products. We offer IBC to our employees as one of their health insurance offerings. We also offer a competitor to our employees as well. I appreciate the opportunity to share our views with the Subcommittee on the proposed merger and consolidation of IBC and Highmark. While I share some of the fears and concerns expressed by some of the other witnesses here today or that will be expressed, on balance I see this merger as an opportunity to address needed change to the health care delivery and financing system in Pennsylvania. I believe a Blues plan whose core business and interests are focused on Pennsylvania is in our collective long-term interest. Holy Redeemer Health System would rather deal with a plan and a plan leadership with a vested interest in making Pennsylvania a better place to live and work. I know arguments have been made on both sides of the issue about the competition or lack of competition between Highmark and IBC in southeastern Pennsylvania and other parts of the State. In a sense both arguments are ``right,'' but both miss the underlying long-term challenge we face in making our health care system better for all stakeholders. From my perspective, our health care system has and will continue to suffer from an abundance of short-term thinking, everyone, including Government, is out to cut the best deal for themselves at the expense of creating an affordable, sustainable system that serves all of our interests. I think we all recognize both in Pennsylvania and across the Nation that the rate of increase in health insurance costs is not sustainable over the long run. Employers, consumers, State and the Federal Government are all struggling to maintain coverage not to mention the continuing growth of under- and uninsured citizens. In short, for us in Pennsylvania I think the merger between Highmark and IBC represents an opportunity to begin to rationalize and transform the health care system in the Commonwealth for the future. This is a once-in-a-generation opportunity to help reform and shape the health care system through an insurance enterprise that by all estimates would be responsible for over 50 percent of the health care lives and revenues in our State. The merger done properly, with the right leadership, appropriate safeguards and appropriate, sustained Government oversight, could help to, as it has been mentioned: reduce administrative costs; improve quality; achieve greater uniformity in our patient safety and process improvement efforts; improve access to coverage; enhance the affordability of coverage; and, very importantly, create a more transparent system. If coordinated with complementary and consistent Government health programs and policies, it should be possible to help drive many needed reforms of Pennsylvania's health care system. In making this case, I fully understand how difficult it will be to achieve these kinds of objectives. But not seizing this opportunity will result in business as usual. A couple of examples of how we have seen glimpses of what the future could be. IBC has engaged the provider community in a series of partnerships. One is with the Health Care Improvement Foundation, an organization that I chair. That organization formed the Partnership for Patient Care to coordinate patient safety and clinical process improvement efforts. Its focus is to accelerate the effective adoption of evidence-based clinical practices by pooling resources, knowledge, and efforts for all health care providers in our region. Every acute care hospital in the Delaware Valley has participated in the partnership, and it has now been expanded to long-term care providers and other stakeholders. On another level, my system and IBC and Cardone Industries, a major manufacturer of auto parts with over 4,000 employees in the Philadelphia market, have collaborated to create a virtual partnership for the provision of high-quality, cost-effective health care, wellness screenings, and illness prevention and education services for Cardone and their employees--clearly an effort not only to improve care, but to reduce costs so those employees and those jobs would stay in Pennsylvania. As I indicated previously, any merger of Highmark and IBC must include some important safeguards or conditions built into the approval process. I have outlined a number of those in my testimony that was written, so I am not going to go into those today. But I would be happy to discuss those--I am looking at the time--during the question-and-answer time. [The prepared statement of Mr. Laign appears as a submission for the record.] Senator Specter. Thank you, Mr. Laign. We turn now to Mr. David Balto, Senior Fellow, Center for American Progress, focusing on competition and health care; previously served at the Antitrust Division of the Department of Justice and at the Federal Trade Commission; received his undergraduate degree from the University of Minnesota and his law degree from Northeastern University School of Law. The floor is yours, Mr. Balto, for 5 minutes. STATEMENT OF DAVID BALTO, SENIOR FELLOW, CENTER FOR AMERICAN PROGRESS, WASHINGTON, D.C. Mr. Balto. Thank you, Senator Specter. CAP wants to applaud the Chairman and appreciate the Chairman and the Ranking Member for all of their hard work and the recent hearings on many antitrust issues which deserve a lot of scrutiny. I am here representing CAP, several consumer groups, and the National Association of Self-Employed. My testimony outlines at the beginning the alarming trend of consolidation that the Chairman spoke of. The groups I represent feel that every day. The National Association of Self-Employed find it increasingly difficult to provide insurance coverage for their members and their employees, as consolidation has led to increasing premiums. On the consumer side, this increasing consolidation has led to a dramatic increase in the number of uninsured which have increased by 17 million to one out of every seven Americans over the past several years. The Highmark-IBC merger may seem complex, but is really relatively simple. Let's go back to Justice Potter Stewart and see what he had to say about the antitrust laws. Thirty-five years ago, he instructed us, ``The central message of the Sherman Act is that a business entity must find new customers and higher profits through internal expansion--that is, by competing successfully rather than by arranging treaties with its competitors.'' These two companies had a treaty. It was a non-compete agreement. And when that agreement expired, they decided to make that treaty not to compete permanent. And that treaty should be stopped because it will prevent competition in southeast Pennsylvania. What are the simple facts? First, IBC and Highmark used to compete in southeast Pennsylvania. Second, in 1996, they entered into an agreement not to compete. It expired in 2006, and a few weeks later, they entered into this agreement. They could compete right now today. The consumers in southeast Pennsylvania could receive the benefits of that competition. Third, Highmark's CEO has been explicit about the company's desire to be a statewide provider of Blue Cross/Blue Shield services. Their incentive to expand to the rest of the State is clear. Finally, we know what the impact of that expansion would be. Highmark entered into central Pennsylvania 6 years ago, and within that 6-year period, because they rolled up their sleeves and they competed, they have acquired a 33-percent market share. And because of that, Senator, CBC rolled up its sleeves, and it is competing more aggressively. And because of all of that competition, employers of all sizes, consumers, and providers are doing better. Now, imagine, Senator Specter, if it is 2001 and instead of Highmark-IBC, it is Highmark-CBC, and they came in before you and they said, ``Please let us merge. We have no desire to enter into central Pennsylvania.'' And if the antitrust authorities had permitted that merger, all of that competition that has occurred over the past 6 years would be lost. Now, one of the things that the parties say is we have no intent to enter, but decades of Supreme Court and lower court decisions have said that when you look at the evidence of entry in a potential competition case, you do not accept their assertions at face value. You do not rely on subjective evidence. You look at objective evidence, in part because subjective evidence is just basically the party's statement. And the objective evidence here tells a compelling story that Highmark has the incentive and ability to enter, and that entry would improve competition in southeastern Pennsylvania. In this regard, I have to say as a former official and antitrust enforcer for over 15 years, it is particularly disturbing that the Justice Department cleared this investigation in less than 60 days on over two occasions. If you did an investigation in less than 60 days, you would not have the time to actually test propositions and seek objective evidence. Now, let me touch on efficiencies. These parties have made a scale argument: We need this merger because we need to compete better against big guys. That reminded me of the same argument that was made in Philadelphia National Bank, when Philadelphia National Bank wanted to acquire another bank in Philadelphia so it could compete better against the banks in New York. And Justice Brennan said, no, that is not kosher. You cannot go and deprive the consumers of Philadelphia of competition just because you want to compete more aggressively elsewhere. The law makes it clear that efficiencies have to be merger specific, that there is no less anticompetitive way to achieve these efficiencies. These are two successful, extremely profitable, extremely talented companies, and I would venture to say that on their own they would be able to achieve most of the efficiencies they seek through this merger. Thank you for the opportunity to testify, and I look forward to your questions. [The prepared statement of Mr. Balto appears as a submission for the record.] Senator Specter. Thank you very much, Mr. Balto. Our next witness is Mr. Henry Allen, Senior Attorney at the American Medical Association, working primarily on antitrust issues. Prior to joining AMA, he practiced in health care law and litigated cases in forums ranging from the Superior Court of Alaska to the U.S. Supreme Court. Graduated magna cum laude from Washington University, bachelor's degree in economics, and a J.D. master's in public administration. Thank you for coming in today, Mr. Allen, and the floor is yours for 5 minutes. STATEMENT OF HENRY S. ALLEN, JR., COUNSEL, PRIVATE SECTOR ADVOCACY DEPARTMENT, AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION, CHICAGO, ILLINOIS Mr. Allen. Thank you, Senator Specter. The American Medical Association commends this Subcommittee for leadership in recognizing the threats that unchecked health insurer consolidations pose to the delivery of health care in Pennsylvania and across the country. We appreciate the opportunity to present testimony on consolidation in the Pennsylvania health insurance industry. In Pennsylvania, where health insurer entry from outside the State has been difficult and little incumbent competition exists, the potential competition that Highmark poses to IBC is the only market mechanism that protects patients from higher premiums. This potential competition also offers the prospect that physicians practicing in IBC's territories will have somewhere else to sell their services. A merger would foreclose this alternative and deprive physicians of the ability to negotiate competitive health insurer contract terms that touch on every aspect of patient care. Accordingly, the AMA opposes the proposed merger of Highmark and IBC. The market shares of Highmark and IBC are more than sufficient for the merger to be found presumptively illegal. The merger would result in a combined entity with more than 70 percent of the fully and self-insured commercial health insurance market in the Commonwealth. In short, this proposed merger is so anticompetitive that it results in a statewide monopoly. This monopoly characterization is buttressed by the substantial barriers to market entry. Health insurers that have successfully competed in other parts of the Nation have barely any presence in Pennsylvania. Because there has been little to no entry in either of Highmark's or IBC's dominant market areas, this merger would permanently eliminate each firm's biggest potential rival. Highmark and IBC assert that they do not compete in the same market, that they operate in different regional markets. Even assuming the insurance market in Pennsylvania is regional, the merger will substantially reduce competition. IBC is dominant in its alleged regionalized market. In the absence of a merger, Highmark's entry as a competitor would result in a substantial deconcentration of IBC's regional market. IBC has the means, other than through merger, to enter IBC's territory. In the past, Highmark would have marketed its Blue Shield Plan in IBC's territory but for Highmark's agreement with IBC to exit that territory for 10 years. That market division agreement expired around the time this consolidation was proposed. Today, Highmark is free, capable, and desirous of offering its services in the southeastern Pennsylvania territory where IBC presently sells. There is no meaningful difference between this potential competition and actual competition. As Areeda and Hovenkamp observed in the leading treatise on antitrust law, once a firm like Highmark is recognized as a factor ``in future predictions about the market, that firm must be counted as a competitor even though that firm has not yet won its first bid or indeed has not made any bid at all.'' To reason otherwise understates the competitive significant of mergers that, like here, occur in highly concentrated, noncompetitive markets. Indeed, where the merger results in a market share of monopoly proportions, the merger should constitute a Section 2 offense of maintaining a monopoly because it eliminates either actual or potential competition. DOJ's clearance of this merger greatly concerns the AMA. The Government has challenged only three of more than 400 mergers involving health insurers and managed care organizations over the past 12 years. As a result, markets for third-party payers, especially commercial insurance plans, have grown increasingly concentrated. Studies show overwhelmingly that in this market environment, physicians across the country have virtually no bargaining power with dominant health insurers. Competition is essential to the health of the free market. Competition among insurers forces them to hold the line on premiums and provide improved service. Accordingly, the AMA respectfully requests that this Committee urge the Federal antitrust enforcement agencies to more rigorously enforce the antitrust laws with respect to proposed health insurer consolidations. Thank you, Senator. I would be happy to answer questions. [The prepared statement of Mr. Allen appears as a submission for the record.] Senator Specter. Thank you very much, Mr. Allen. We now turn to Dr. Barry Harris, Principal and Board Chairman of Economists, Incorporated, former Deputy Attorney General for Economics in the Department of Justice Antitrust Division; bachelor's degree in mathematics from Lehigh University and Ph.D. in economics from the University of Pennsylvania. We welcome you here, Dr. Harris, and the floor is yours for 5 minutes. STATEMENT OF BARRY C. HARRIS, BOARD CHAIRMAN, ECONOMISTS, INC., WASHINGTON, D.C. Mr. Harris. Thank you, Senator. As you said, my name is Barry Harris, and I am an economist. I have been doing work in antitrust and competition issues for more than 30 years. And as you pointed out, I was at the Department of Justice. I was the chief economist there. My official title was Deputy Assistant Attorney General. I hope to be brief today. My full testimony was presented to the Pennsylvania Insurance Department, and it is part of the public record. The analysis considered relevant markets; it considered competition within these relevant markets; it considered potential competition; and it considered other issues as well. The overall conclusion I reached is that there is no basis to conclude that the proposed consolidation of Highmark and IBC would reduce competition. The reason for this is simple. Highmark and IBC do not compete with each other in the sale of commercial insurance for any customer. That is--and this is important--no customer will have fewer choices after the transaction than they do today. Now, as you have heard, there is a lot of speculation about issues of potential competition, and at least what I have seen is it is just speculation. I agree with Mr. Allen and Mr. Balto that it should be based on objective criteria. And perhaps you may want to ask Dr. Melani later, but he laid out at the PID hearings a list of reasons why Highmark does not believe it is in its interest to enter southeast Pennsylvania in the absence of this transaction. Now I would like to turn to my overall conclusion, which is that the transaction will not harm competition. Again, as other people have said, the Department of Justice has reviewed this transaction twice. My understanding of that process is a bit different than has been presented. Thousands of documents were presented to the Department of Justice. The parties gave the Department of Justice additional time so that it could complete its investigation. The Department looked at direct competition; it looked at potential competition; it considered sales of both commercial and non- commercial products. And twice the Department of Justice provided clearance. My take on that is that the Department of Justice reached the same conclusions that I have reached, and that is that the proposed consolidation of Highmark and IBC will not lessen competition in any insurance market in Pennsylvania. One last point. There have been several claims that there is a State market here and that the shares are very high. And it is a basic tenet of antitrust law and competitive analysis that shares only make sense in a properly defined market. And there is no State market for health insurance products in Pennsylvania. If you are a consumer in Philadelphia, you have no ability to access the same products that are offered consumers in Pittsburgh. The prices may differ; the products themselves may differ. Basically, the product in Philadelphia is not a substitute for Pittsburgh and vice versa. And it is true throughout the State. So, consequently, any shares or conclusions drawn on the whole State do not provide you with the basis for appropriate economic and competition analysis. Thank you, and I, too, would welcome questions during the question-and-answer period. [The prepared statement of Mr. Harris appears as a submission for the record.] Senator Specter. Thank you, Mr. Harris. Our final witness is Dr. Henry Miller, Managing Director of Navigant Consulting, Inc. More than 35 years' experience in the field of health care practice, a CPA, Dr. Miller developed research costing as a method for measuring costs of health services; a bachelor's degree and an MBA from the City College of New York, Ph.D. from the University of Illinois. Thank you for joining us, Dr. Miller, and we look forward to your testimony for 5 minutes. STATEMENT OF HENRY MILLER, MANAGING DIRECTOR, NAVIGANT CONSULTING, INC., WASHINGTON, D.C. Mr. Miller. Thank you, Senator Specter. As you indicated, I have worked on health insurance and health finance issues for more than 30 years, including work for clients based in Pennsylvania, in other States, and for the Federal Government. I was asked by UPMC Health Plan to analyze the impact of the proposed consolidation of Highmark and Independence Blue Cross and to testify today on my findings. UPMC is an integrated delivery and financing system and the second largest nongovernmental employer in Pennsylvania. UPMC Health Plan provides commercial group coverage to over 6,000 employers with approximately 330,000 members, Medicare and Medicaid coverage to another 185,000 beneficiaries, and services an additional 700,000 members through a variety of other benefit programs such as behavioral health, CHIP, short-term disability, employee assistance, and wellness programs. I have prepared a detailed report for UPMC Health Plan on the impact of the proposed Highmark and IBC consolidation, and I would be happy to provide a copy of this report to the Committee if it is requested. Today, in my testimony I want to concentrate on four issues: First, briefly identify the markets that are going to affected by the consolidation; Second, cite evidence that previous health insurer consolidations have not led to administrative savings; Third, that Pennsylvania's hospitals will be adversely affected by the increased financial pressure that will result from the combined entity's leverage during hospital contract negotiations; And, finally, that the proposed consolidation will adversely change the market for health insurance in Pennsylvania to the detriment of health care consumers and providers. There was just some recent discussion on the issue of whether the market was a statewide market or a regional market. My point would be that the commercial health insurance market is a complex market that includes markets that are separate for individuals who are purchasing coverage for small groups and for large groups. And at least some of those customers operate in a statewide market. Understanding that the health insurance market operates on a statewide basis for some customers is important because the consolidation of Highmark and Independence Blue Cross will create a single entity that will obviously have a dominant market share in the State. In testimony that I provided to the Pennsylvania Insurance Department, I carefully calculated market share for Highmark and IBC in Pennsylvania and determined, based upon the 12 million people who live in Pennsylvania and the 7,649,000 who have commercial health insurance, that approximately these two--not approximately, but these two entities combined will cover 68.8 percent of the population. When considering a merger or a consolidation, it is important to determine who will benefit. Reduced administrative costs are commonly cited as a benefit of consolidation. Despite the fact that this benefit is cited frequently, it is important to understand that few, if any, health insurance company mergers in the past 10 years have resulted in lower administrative costs. The complexity of health insurer operations and their reliance on information technology has meant that administrative savings have been elusive. Last year, I served as the financial consultant to the New Jersey Commission on Rationalizing Health Care Resources. The commission was established by Governor Corzine to address concerns about the financial instability of many of the State's hospitals. My review of hospital finances in Pennsylvania raises similar questions about hospitals' ability to withstand increased financial pressure. Pennsylvania hospitals have lower margins, less liquidity, and are less able to cover their existing debt than the average U.S. hospital. More importantly, Pennsylvania hospitals have physical plants that are more than 14 percent older than the plant of the average U.S. hospital. The consolidated Highmark/IBC entity will have extraordinary leverage in hospital contracting at a time when hospitals are considerably less able to withstand that leverage. Analyses that I have completed indicate that reimbursement rates are lower and premiums are higher in States that have health plans with large market shares. Because of their size, Highmark and IBC already have significant competitive advantages in the Pennsylvania market. Their advantages are evidenced by the difficulty other health insurers have in competing in Pennsylvania as compared to other States. If the consolidation is approved, the combined entity will provide coverage to at least two-thirds of Pennsylvania's residents and have substantial financial resources that can be used to further increase their market share. Consolidation will certainly not make it easier for other health insurers to compete in Pennsylvania and likely will make such competition more difficult than it is today. Furthermore, no meaningful benefits will accrue to the residents of Pennsylvania that offset the impact of the resulting decline in competition. Thank you. [The prepared statement of Mr. Miller appears as a submission for the record.] Senator Specter. Thank you very much, Mr. Miller. Beginning with you, Mr. Laign, you testified that this merger would enhance affordability. Would you amplify that? Do you believe that this merger will make health insurance more affordable? Mr. Laign. I believe that this will give us an opportunity to experiment and try sort of innovative solutions, just as I mentioned with the Cardone organization. Senator Specter. Experiment? Mr. Laign. Or pilots, however you want to look at it, that we will be able to, in fact, work collaboratively not only within the Philadelphia market but across the State. Senator Specter. Well, when you talk about experimentation, it is speculative as to what the result will be. If you-- Mr. Laign. Well, I can tell you in a very-- Senator Specter. If you have a merger, you have got scrambled eggs. If it does not work out, then what? But your statement was that you concluded it would enhance affordability. Mr. Laign. I did in my testimony talk about a catastrophic plan that I suggested that both health insurers may want to look at that I think would be one potential way that we could make health care affordable. What I was just alluding to, though, was the relationship that we have developed with Cardone, and I can tell you that is a partnership between IBC and industry and a health care provider all geared to providing excellent health care; also, by the way, reducing cost, and a big part of that is through the reduction in utilization of services and the more efficient utilization of services. For example, we are now looking at ways together to make sure that their employees and their dependents receive all the pharmaceuticals that are prescribed for them. People do not always take their prescriptions according to the way the doctor has ordered. By working together, we think we can create, again, innovative models to address those types of issues. Improving care, reducing cost. Senator Specter. Ms. Scanlan, you cite in your testimony that in central Pennsylvania where Highmark competes with Capital Blue Cross, reimbursement rates for doctors and hospitals are higher. Could you amplify that? Does that competition result in more compensation for doctors and hospitals, as your statement specifies? Ms. Scanlan. What I can adequately say--and we have some charts attached to the testimony that we submitted--is that the operating margins of the hospitals in the middle of the State are higher than the operating margins in the rest of the State. Because of the way these agreements are entered into between the plans and the individual hospitals, I am not privy to the absolute numbers of what those payments are. But when we look at the financial stability or status of the hospitals in the central part of the State-- Senator Specter. You say their operating margins are higher, but that is not really responsive on the issue as you state in your written testimony, that reimbursement rates for hospitals are higher. Is that so? Ms. Scanlan. I cannot, as I said before, speak to the absolute amount of what those reimbursement rates are. The assumption is that it is causative, that the rates are higher, which leads to higher operating margins. Senator Specter. I noted earlier that Temple University Health System and the University of Pennsylvania Health System have not taken stands on this proposed merger. Can you tell us why? Ms. Scanlan. I do not know why the individual systems have not taken--or have spoken in a more neutral fashion. Both of those entities are represented on the Hospital Association Board. The process that we went through in the association was to hold regional hearings amongst our members, have a special task force, and then the board evaluated and deliberated about this at numerous meetings. Both the CEO of Temple and the COO of the University of Pennsylvania Health System sit on both the HAP Board and the HAP Executive Committee, and I can tell you that it was a unanimous decision on the part of the board to oppose the merger as proposed. Senator Specter. Did Temple or Penn oppose the merger in your deliberations on the board? Ms. Scanlan. No. Senator Specter. They took no position? Ms. Scanlan. They, along with the rest of the board, unanimously took the position to oppose the merger as proposed. Senator Specter. So they did oppose the merger. Ms. Scanlan. Within the association. Senator Specter. Mr. Harris, are you representing UPMC here today? Dr. Harris. Mr. Harris. No. I have testified on behalf-- Senator Specter. Dr. Miller, you are representing UPMC? Mr. Miller. Yes. Senator Specter. Dr. Harris, you have testified that you believe the merger would be beneficial to the health care systems and ultimately helpful to the consumer? Mr. Harris. I believe it will be, but let me just parse out two different parts. I did not work on the calculation of cost savings and efficiencies. I only look at the competitive aspects, and my conclusion with regard to the competitive aspects is there will be no harm to competition, no reduction to competition. And the process of competition causes cost savings ultimately to be passed on to consumers. So, in that regard, yes, I do believe it will be beneficial to consumers. Senator Specter. And that is the basis for your favoring the merger? Mr. Harris. Well, again, I do not want to parse words, but I had a narrow assignment, and that was to look at the process of competition. And I strongly believe that it will have no impact on competition. If-- Senator Specter. Well, are you saying that you are not taking a position on the desirability of the merger? Mr. Harris. I mean, I have no specific position. I have only done a competitive analysis. But the process of competition does cause cost savings to be passed on to consumers. So, to the extent these cost savings will be realized, it will be a merger that is beneficial to consumers. Senator Specter. Well, you are talking about cost savings as a result of efficiencies, economy, and size? Mr. Harris. Correct, as an example. Senator Specter. I am just trying to figure out whether you are for it or against it, Dr. Harris. Mr. Harris. I mean, I am not sure how to be clearer. I had-- Senator Specter. Well, yes or on. Mr. Harris. My experience is that these kinds of mergers are good for consumers, but I did not do the analysis with regard to the cost savings. Senator Specter. Your experience is they are good for consumers, so you are for the merger. Mr. Harris. Well, in that regard, yes. Senator Specter. Well, is there some other regard? [Laughter.] Senator Specter. I am just trying to find out your position. I am trying very hard not to lead you. I know how to lead a witness, but I am trying very hard not to lead you. [Laughter.] Mr. Harris. My analysis of the merger focused on the competitive process, and I see no reason to believe that this competition will cause a competitive harm. Accepting the calculations of cost savings, that is an important part of the competitive process, so-- Senator Specter. No reason to believe that it would not, with the possibility of an exception. Mr. Harris. If you accept it, then I do believe it will be a beneficial merger. Senator Specter. OK. Dr. Miller, there had always been a sense that UPMC, whom you represent, and Highmark had a very close working relationship in the Pittsburgh area. Why is UPMC opposed to this merger? Mr. Miller. In my experience, in my experience as a consultant to UPMC, I have not seen the evidence of that close working relationship. What I have seen is that UPMC as a health plan, not UPMC as a hospital provider but UPMC as a health plan, vigorously competes with Highmark and is concerned about the potential impact of Highmark growing larger and with greater surpluses and having a greater sense of competitive leverage as a result of this merger. Senator Specter. Well, UPMC has some lines of insurance coverage of its own, right? Mr. Miller. Yes. Senator Specter. Describe to what extent UPMC has those lines which would put them in a possible competitive situation with Highmark on providing insurance. Mr. Miller. Very definitely competitive. UPMC offers coverage in a number of different categories, including what we would normally describe as health coverage, managed care coverage, to about 330,000 people, all of whom are in western Pennsylvania, which means that they are competing directly with Highmark for business. UPMC has 6,000 employers who have currently purchased coverage from UPMC Health Plan. In addition to that, UPMC Health Plan provides behavioral health coverage and other types of coverage as well. But the experience of UPMC Health Plan, the health plan itself, which is a part of UPMC, the experience of the health plan is that it vigorously competes for business in western Pennsylvania with Highmark right now. Senator Specter. Mr. Allen, you have contended that Highmark could easily re-enter the Philadelphia area market because it already has a network of providers there. If Highmark does not compete in southeastern Pennsylvania, what does it mean that they have a network of providers there? Is that activated, operative? Mr. Allen. In prior years, they were the Blue Shield Plan, and it continued to be operating as Blue Shield. And they, therefore--they do have connections with physician groups there. My understanding is that they have the network--I do not know whether those physicians are actually actively contracted. But the Blue Shield Plan is statewide plan, and they are Blue Shield. They have, through Blue Shield, physicians everywhere in Pennsylvania. They are under contract. Senator Specter. So Highmark is operating under Blue Shield in eastern Pennsylvania, southeastern Pennsylvania? Mr. Allen. They had an agreement not to do that. That covenant not to compete with IBC has expired, and with the expiration of that covenant not to compete, they are ready and able, by virtue of their physician relationships, to compete there in southeastern Pennsylvania. That is my understanding. Senator Specter. Mr. Marshall, in your testimony, you contend that the proposed merger between Highmark and IBC would reduce potential competition. Potential competition is obviously a factor. What indicators are that, absent this merger, Highmark would compete with IBC in eastern or southeastern Pennsylvania? Mr. Marshall. First, Senator, I would like to think that at some point the regulatory oversight of the insurance industry would ask that question and perhaps force some competition in that end. I think if State Farm and Allstate were to say let's divide up the State and not compete with one another, there would probably be some pretty extensive regulatory review, and that should happen there. I think, second, the practice of Highmark itself, it has gone into central Pennsylvania. There is no reason it cannot go east, further east. I do appreciate that--and I guess, third, they both have--Highmark and IBC must have been somewhat tempted to compete or else they would not have felt a need to have a 10-year covenant against it. And I guess, fourth, I would like to think that businesses generally want to expand and grow, and businesses generally want to enter into new markets and new territories. Certainly that is the hallmark of all of the companies we represent. And so while current management at Highmark may not have any intention of going east, I would think that there would be future management that very well might. Senator Specter. Mr. Frick, do you have any intentions of going west? Mr. Frick. No, Senator. The infrastructure that would be required to build a statewide brand would prohibitive, and it would divert resources and needed funds from serving our customers in southeastern Pennsylvania in the way that they require it. No, sir. Senator Specter. Dr. Melani, do you have any intention of going east? Dr. Melani. No, Senator, we do not. Senator Specter. Dr. Melani, how has it worked out in central Pennsylvania where Highmark competes with Capital? Dr. Melani. Senator, that is a great question. It has not worked out well. We entered that marketplace in 2002, and the reason we entered that marketplace was at that time we had a substantial amount of business in that marketplace that we shared with Capital Blue Cross. In addition, we had a large number of employees housed in that marketplace. There were 4,000 employees. And we had relationships in that marketplace that had been developed and sustained over 60 years. At that time, Capital Blue Cross was threatening to talk all the business that we shared into a downstream company owned solely by them, and we were faced with the situation where we were going to lose significant amounts of revenue profitability if that would happen by being forced out the marketplace. So we elected to compete. We went in that marketplace using our brand, Pennsylvania Blue Shield, and established a hospital network to match up with our physician network. Our experience over the last 5 years, although each of the plans--Capital Blue Cross and Pennsylvania Blue Shield--basically took what market we had and split it 50/50, the financial experience has been dismal. Over the 5 years on that book of business, we have a minus 1-percent operating margin on that book of business. In addition, I think Ms. Scanlan outlined exactly what the problem is. As we have entered that market, the hospitals and physicians have used their market power and the divisiveness that is created by way of having more health plans to raise costs. They have raised the cost of accessing physician services and hospital services, and margins of the hospitals in that region have gone up substantially. Senator Specter. Well, is Highmark competing now with Capital in that market? Dr. Melani. We are, and our premiums in that market have risen faster in that market than the other markets we operate in. So it has been a disaster for customers and for us as a corporation. Senator Specter. Dr. Melani, why do you think the Hospital Association is opposed to the merger? Dr. Melani. Because they represent hospitals that would like to get paid more money. Senator Specter. And will they be paid less money if the merger occurs? Dr. Melani. No, because we will not gain any more market share in the markets we operate in. We will have no more market power in any single market today, so there is no more leverage today than there will be after the merger, so we would be able to-- Senator Specter. But you say they are opposed to the merger because they would like to be paid more money. Dr. Melani. Yes, they would like to decrease our market position in the marketplace. Senator Specter. Well, you said because they would-- Dr. Melani. I am sorry. They would oppose the merger-I am not sure why they would oppose the merger, frankly, because it does not change the market dynamics that exist today. We do not compete. We are in different markets, and it does not change the market dynamic between Highmark or IBC and its providers-- hospitals and physicians. It just gives us some additional scale to lower our operating costs, get administrative efficiencies, and leverage other kinds of services in the health care cost equation, like pharmaceuticals, durable medical equipment, laboratory services. It would have no impact on physicians and hospitals. Senator Specter. Mr. Marshall, it is my understanding that--or let me just ask you the question. Have premiums gone down due to competition in central Pennsylvania? Mr. Marshall. Have premiums gone down over the last 6 years? No, Senator. Have they gone up by less of a margin than they have gone up in the more concentrated markets? I believe there they have. I also think the one thing that gets left out of all of this, frankly, when an insurer faces competition and, therefore, does not make as much money as it used to, I think that is a good thing for consumers. I think that is a good thing for the marketplace. Senator Specter. Would you repeat what is a good thing for consumers? That is what I have been looking for in this entire hearing. Mr. Marshall. I think if an insurer says that because it faced competition it is not making as much money as it wishes it were, I think that is a good thing for consumers. That is what competition is meant to do for consumers. It I meant to hold down just how much money-- Senator Specter. You say premiums have not gone down in central Pennsylvania, but they have not gone up as much as they did in areas where there was not the competition like between Capital and Highmark? Mr. Marshall. That is my understanding. That is my understanding about a year ago, and I cannot speak for what their rates have done in the past year. I also-- Senator Specter. Would you find out and let the Subcommittee know? Mr. Marshall. Yes, Senator. I also think the one point that gets left out, it is not just what providers get paid or even what the premiums are. It is also what the quality of the service and the innovations of the service are. You look in the health insurance marketplace in central Pennsylvania and throughout, the innovations that have happened with health savings accounts, transparency, and even a lot of the managed care and utilization controls only came about from competition. That is where the genesis was. It was actually not even among our larger members. It was among some of the very small health insurance members that those ideas came about. You lose that when you do not have a competitive marketplace. Senator Specter. Mr. Frick, I am advised that the Independence Blue Cross reserves are $1.7 billion and the Highmark reserves are $4 billion. Is Independence Blue Cross in a position where you have insufficient reserves? Mr. Frick. You are correct, Senator; our surplus is approximately $1.7 billion. That represents only 63 days of claims payments. And in Pennsylvania, the Insurance Department did an exhaustive review in 2005 of the Blues' surplus and came to the conclusion that none of the Blues had excessive surplus. The legislature did a review and came to the same conclusion. Senator Specter. What conclusion was that? Mr. Frick. That none of the surplus amounts of the four Blue Plans were excessive. Senator Specter. Who concluded that? Mr. Frick. The Pennsylvania Insurance Department, as well as an independent study that was subsequently done by the legislature. And, Senator, we use--the question about using the surplus to benefit subscribers, we do that on an ongoing basis when we do our financial planning, when we set rates, when we plan for investment income. And it enables us to operate at lower margins than our for-profit, publicly traded competitors. Senator Specter. When you say that it is only 63 days of claims payments, but during those 63 days you are also getting more premiums. Mr. Frick. Well, our surplus represents--we pay about $850 million a month in claims for services to hospitals and physicians on behalf of our members. Senator Specter. And how much do you get in premiums? Mr. Frick. Our premium last year was in excess of $10 billion. Senator Specter. So $850 million in-- Mr. Frick. $850 million in claims payments per month out of a monthly premium of less than $1.5 billion. Senator Specter. It looks like at $10 billion annual premiums and 850 paid out-- Mr. Frick. Million a month. To put it another way, Senator, as I said, about 88 cents of our revenue or premium dollars-- Senator Specter. Well, the figures you have just given me, you have a deficit. Twelve times $850 million in payments comes to $1.2 billion. So you are losing--are you losing money? Mr. Frick. Eighty-eight cents of every-- Senator Specter. Do not go back to 88 cents. You told me that you have payments of $850 million a month. Isn't that right? Mr. Frick. Did I say 850 or 650? Senator Specter. Well, which is it? I believe you said 850. Mr. Frick. Let me check my notes, Senator. I know-- Senator Specter. It is only $200 million, Mr. Frick. That is not much among friends. [Laughter.] Mr. Frick. It is significant, Senator. Senator Specter. How much? Mr. Frick. It is significant, when you said Senator Specter. Is it 850 or 650? Mr. Frick. Let me check my notes. Senator Specter. Take your time. Mr. Frick. Absolutely. It is $850 million a month, yes. Senator Specter. OK. Well, when I multiply 12 times 850, I get $10.2 billion. If your premiums are $10 billion, which you just said, you are losing money. Did you know he was losing money, Dr. Melani, when you agreed-- [Laughter.] Dr. Melani. That is why we need to merge. Senator Specter. That is why he needs to merge, but how about you? Mr. Frick. Our operating margin last year was 1 percent. Our investment income was 0.6 percent. We operated. Senator Specter. Now, come on, Mr. Frick, don't start giving me figures-- Mr. Frick. We are not losing money. Senator Specter. I want to deal with 12 times 850 million, which is $10.2 billion, as composed with--well, take a look at the transcript, Mr. Frick. Your figures, I think, do not add up, and take a look at it and provide the Committee with the information. Mr. Frick. Absolutely, Senator. Senator Specter. Dr. Melani, how can a company run as efficiently as Independence Blue Cross with Mr. Frick, although his math may not be too good, how could they get along with only $1.7 billion in surplus whereas you have to have $4 billion in surplus? Dr. Melani. Yes, it is a difference in the kind of risk that we each bear. Each of our companies has a different make- up of the book of business that we have in different types of risk that we carry. Certain types of-- Senator Specter. Sufficient to have more than twice the amount of reserves? Dr. Melani. Yes, Senator. Senator Specter. Why? Dr. Melani. Our reserves are also--have also been deemed to be below the excessive level, and although our reserves- Senator Specter. Need to be below the excessive level? Dr. Melani. Yes. Senator Specter. What does that mean? Dr. Melani. They are at a sufficient level. The Insurance Department has determined that our reserves are in the sufficient level. Senator Specter. Would you repeat that? Dr. Melani. They have determined that our reserves are sufficient to cover the risk that we have and not excessive. Senator Specter. Who made that determination? Dr. Melani. The Insurance Department, the Pennsylvania Insurance Department. Senator Specter. Would they approve even higher reserves? Dr. Melani. Yes, sir. Senator Specter. Is there any limit to what they would approve? Dr. Melani. Yes, there is, sir. Senator Specter. What is it? Dr. Melani. What they do, Senator, is they look at the risk that you have in your business, because all of us carry different lines of business. Some of us are in Medicare. Some of us are in Medicaid. Some are in commercial business. We have other lines of business, too--workers' compensation, we have vision insurance, dental insurance, all types of businesses that we have. And each of those have different levels of risk. So the NAIC, the National Association of Insurance Carriers, has established a methodology to do an apples-to- apples comparison, and they take your surplus and they look at the relative risk you have, and they come up with an equation and a number called risk-based capital, and it is a percentage number. And that is how you can compare all of us to see how we are in relative solvency. And then they set up guidelines with that risk-based capital to determine whether or not your organization is solvent or not based on that ratio. In the State of Pennsylvania, they have capped that ratio at 750 percent. Above that, they consider it excessive, and they begin to do things to bring that level of surplus down. Senator Specter. Let me ask everybody on the panel the same question, starting with you, Dr. Miller. Is there any basis for doctors and hospitals being concerned about this proposed merger on the grounds that there may be too much power in a combined entity which would give them undue power in negotiating payments to doctors and hospitals? Mr. Miller. I definitely believe that there is. One of the points that you were just making was that, combined, the surplus--I am familiar with somewhat different numbers, but in the vicinity, a combined surplus of $6 to $7 billion, which is not only high in itself but so much higher than any other insurer would have in the State that it gives them the capability to exert substantial leverage through a number of different approaches. And one of the approaches would be in terms of increased pressure on physicians. Right now, they exert a considerable amount of pressure on physicians and on hospitals, if for no other reason than because of their size and what that represents of the physician's or hospital's patients. In a typical situation, either IBC or Highmark probably provides coverage to 25, perhaps even 30 percent--about 25 percent of the patients of any one particular hospital, and perhaps even more for some physicians. And when you are in that kind of a position, and now in a position of being even larger and being able to exert greater pressure, then you can obtain substantial discounts. And the evidence is there. One of the points I made in my testimony was that I studied States where Blues Plans had very substantial market shares of the type that the Highmark/IBC consolidation would create. And in almost every instance, the payment levels, the reimbursement levels to physicians and hospitals are lower than they are in States where there is more competition. Senator Specter. Mr. Frick, do you think that hospitals and doctors have any basis at all for concern about this proposed merger in giving undue leverage and bargaining power to a merged entity? The question Dr. Miller answers in the affirmative, do you think--I know your answer is no, but tell me why. Mr. Frick. Well, as you highlighted, Senator--and I was pleased that Temple and University of Pennsylvania and Holy Redeemer and also Children's Hospital of Pennsylvania, Dr. Steve Altschuler, testified in Philadelphia about the importance of our relationship and our partnership. We are all worried about health care costs-- Senator Specter. But did Penn and Temple think--did they testify in favor of the merger? Mr. Frick. They testified-- Senator Specter. They liked your relationship. Mr. Frick.--about the relationship. Senator Specter. But did they testify in favor of the merger? Mr. Frick. They testified about our partnership and its importance to their institutions and its importance to their patients and our customers. Senator Specter. Mr. Frick, do you think there is any concern that if they testify against you, you could retaliate in some way? Mr. Frick. Not at all, Senator. Our products are dependent on access to high-quality hospital and physician networks. Senator Specter. Well, why didn't Temple and Penn testify in favor of the merger then? You are being coached by Dr. Melani-- Mr. Frick. No, no-- Senator Specter.--and that is perfectly--that is perfectly appropriate. You cannot hinder a witness, but you can coach him a little. Go ahead, Dr. Melani. You answer the question. Or is it outside your jurisdiction since-- Dr. Melani. You would have to ask them because we do not have any idea why they would not testify pro or con. Senator Specter. You do not know why? Do you adopt that answer, Mr. Frick? Mr. Frick. I want to explain that in Pennsylvania, I think the hospitals, as well as we are, are concerned about health care costs. But I think the institutions that we deal with in southeastern Pennsylvania are proud of our working relationships. And do I believe they are worried about retaliation or leverage? The market dynamics in southeastern Pennsylvania does not change after the merger, Senator. Our relationships, our products and services, remain the same. We are in two separate markets. Senator Specter. Well, Mr. Frick, it is different as to whether they like the relationship contrasted with whether they favor the merger. That is different. Mr. Frick. Yes. Senator Specter. Are you a volunteer, Mr. Balto? Let the record show someone raised his hand. Mr. Balto. Yes, I want to reply on a couple things. First, as a former Government antitrust official for 20 years, I would not rely too much on who complains and who does not complain. I burnt a lot of shoe leather trying to get people to complain about activities by firms that were monopolist, and the problem is, before this merger or after this merger, they are going to have to live with the monopolist so they are going to be reluctant about complaining. Should they-- Senator Specter. So you think there is a reluctance about complaining? Mr. Balto. Sure. I mean, my experience in mergers, you can ask people at either antitrust agency, they will tell you that that is very common. Senator Specter. Do you think retaliation is not totally out of the picture? Mr. Balto. You are going to have to live with these people--whether the merger occurs, you are going to live with a firm with a 70-percent market share one way or another. But what I wanted to do is try to reformulate the question a bit, because what Mr. Harris is suggesting is that all you are doing is changing the name tag on the firm you are dealing with. This is not the operative question here. The operative question here is not whether or not you will have less choices. It is, But for this merger, wouldn't you possibly have more choices? You would have Highmark on the edge of the market, either poised to enter or perhaps entering, and that would improve choices for consumers and for-- Senator Specter. Do you think there is a significant likelihood that Highmark would enter Independence Blue Cross' territory? Mr. Balto. I think that consistent with the CEO's statements, it is consistent with their past history, and work now the- Senator Specter. Highmark's? Mr. Balto. Highmark's past history. Senator Specter. Would anybody--now I have got a lot of hands going up. [Laughter.] Senator Specter. We are going to have to conclude in a few minutes, but go ahead, Mr. Laign. Mr. Laign. I guess since I am the lone provider, I would like to answer the question, too. I do not feel that this merger will affect their leverage on rates whatsoever. I think the reserves are important. A number of us in the health care industry have been through the failures of insurance companies and the impact that has had on us, negatively. We have ended up getting 50 cents or less on the dollar from those failures. As a health care provider, I believe cash reserves are extremely important, too. We have 151 days in cash at Holy Redeemer Health System, and I do not believe that is enough, nor do the rating agencies believe that is enough. I guess what I am hopeful is that the regulators--and I believe they will; I have been extremely impressed with our new insurance commissioner--will do their job and they will provide the necessary oversight of both Highmark and IBC to assure that providers are paid fairly. There are appropriate appeal processes, and we do create-- Senator Specter. We have two more hands that are up. I will hear two more responses. Dr. Harris, then Mr. Allen. Mr. Harris. I have known Dave Balto for a long time. We worked together, I guess, in the Government and in private practice. But I have to disagree with him for two different reasons. One, reading newspaper articles and, in my mind, misinterpreting what is said in those newspaper articles is not how you do an entry analysis. You look at the specific reasons open to that firm. You look at the specific market, and you ask: Will that entry likely be profitable? Moreover--and I just wrote a chapter in an ABA book on this topic. Sitting on the edge of a market does not affect things in that market if entry takes a long time and if a market is difficult to enter. All the testimony here is that this is a difficult market to enter, and he is basically confusing two things. He is confusing what is called a market with no sunk costs, where it is easy to enter, and one where it is more difficult. And in a market like this, having someone at the edge does not have much of an impact on competition. And, moreover, Highmark's analysis says they are not going to enter. Senator Specter. Mr. Allen, you can have-- Mr. Allen. Sure. Just to echo a bit on Mr. Balto's point, in southeastern Pennsylvania where IBC now has a 70-percent market share, that is overwhelmingly more than what is required to force physicians to take fees that are anticompetitive, below competitive levels, and compromise their practices. It only takes about a 20-percent market share before physicians basically are over a barrel in their negotiations. So it is a sad day when here Highmark would be, we would say, entering the market, giving physicians an opportunity to--giving physicians an opportunity to have some competition for the contract. And then, Senator, on the question that you asked me earlier about the ability of Highmark to utilize the physician network in southeast Pennsylvania, their ability to actually come in and give some relief to the marketplace, including the physician market, that information, the information that I have on that came from Monica Noether's report. She has said that, ``Highmark already has an existing presence in southeastern Pennsylvania through its professional provider network and its participation in products jointly marketed with IBC in that region. Since Highmark is a professional services plan with providers in southeastern Pennsylvania, Highmark already has an existing physician network under contract in southeastern Pennsylvania.'' And that comes from a page of Monica Noether's expert report. Senator Specter. Dr. Melani, you have your hand up? Dr. Melani. Yes, Senator, thank you. I think a lot of discussion at the table has been about competition, and I think we have clearly stated--and I think it is factual--that we do not compete today and this merger will not change the market dynamics that exist today. Most of the speculations are on potential competition, and it is truly speculation. And a lot of that has been based on statements that are attributed to me, and those statements are correct. I have said that Highmark does have a desire to be a statewide organization. What I also did in those statements was to go on and say I believe there should be one Blue Cross/Blue Shield in the State of Pennsylvania. And at the time that those statements were made, we were in discussion with IBC about the consolidation, and that was our intended way to become a statewide organization. We have never, ever stated that we intended to compete in the Philadelphia marketplace, and we do not intend to compete in the Philadelphia marketplace. Senator Specter. Mr. Frick, would you like to have another comment? You and Dr. Melani have the laboring oar here, so I will give you another chance to comment, if you want to. Mr. Frick. Well, I view Highmark as a partner. They are not a competitor. We have jointly offered products throughout our history. We have made shared investments for the benefit of our communities. We are both Blue Plans. And we want to continue this relationship in a new and different way, and the $1 billion in net economic benefit to the Commonwealth as a result of this combination is a progressive step forward to address the issues that you have articulated today: affordability, access, and quality. It is what we work to achieve every day, and this combination will certainly improve that for Pennsylvania. And I think our history speaks to that in working together. Senator Specter. Mr. Frick and Dr. Melani, this Subcommittee would be interested in a short statement as to how the merger would impact compensation to physicians, to hospitals--and having extended that request to you, I would extend it to everyone--Ms. Scanlan, Mr. Marshall, Mr. Laign, Mr. Balto, Mr. Allen, Dr. Harris, Dr. Miller--what would the impact be likely on compensation to physicians, number 1; compensation to hospitals, number 2, the impact on premiums which are paid, significantly by employers but sometimes by the individuals; and what impact would it have on the consumers in terms of reducing the number of uninsured consumers and how it would impact on the consumers. This is going to be an ongoing matter, and I think it would be useful. It has been a very good hearing, and I wanted to be sure it was balanced and asked Highmark and Independence Blue Cross for additional witnesses, and they suggested Dr. Harris and Mr. Laign. We appreciate your coming in. We appreciate all of your coming in. We do not often have nine witnesses at that green-felt table. That concludes the hearing. Thank you all very much. [Whereupon, at 4:06 p.m., the Subcommittee was adjourned.] [Questions and answers and submissions for the record follow.] [GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT]