[House Hearing, 111 Congress] [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office] STATUS OF THE 2010 CENSUS OPERATIONS ======================================================================= HEARING before the SUBCOMMITTEE ON INFORMATION POLICY, CENSUS, AND NATIONAL ARCHIVES of the COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED ELEVENTH CONGRESS FIRST SESSION __________ MARCH 5, 2009 __________ Serial No. 111-4 __________ Printed for the use of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/congress/ index.html http://www.oversight.house.gov U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 50-732 WASHINGTON : 2009 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For Sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office Internet: bookstore.gpo.gov Phone: toll free (866) 512-1800; (202) 512�091800 Fax: (202) 512�092104 Mail: Stop IDCC, Washington, DC 20402�090001 COMMITTEE ON OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM EDOLPHUS TOWNS, New York, Chairman PAUL E. KANJORSKI, Pennsylvania DARRELL E. ISSA, California CAROLYN B. MALONEY, New York DAN BURTON, Indiana ELIJAH E. CUMMINGS, Maryland JOHN M. McHUGH, New York DENNIS J. KUCINICH, Ohio JOHN L. MICA, Florida JOHN F. TIERNEY, Massachusetts MARK E. SOUDER, Indiana WM. LACY CLAY, Missouri TODD RUSSELL PLATTS, Pennsylvania DIANE E. WATSON, California JOHN J. DUNCAN, Jr., Tennessee STEPHEN F. LYNCH, Massachusetts MICHAEL R. TURNER, Ohio JIM COOPER, Tennessee LYNN A. WESTMORELAND, Georgia GERRY E. CONNOLLY, Virginia PATRICK T. McHENRY, North Carolina ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, District of BRIAN P. BILBRAY, California Columbia JIM JORDAN, Ohio PATRICK J. KENNEDY, Rhode Island JEFF FLAKE, Arizona DANNY K. DAVIS, Illinois JEFF FORTENBERRY, Nebraska CHRIS VAN HOLLEN, Maryland JASON CHAFFETZ, Utah HENRY CUELLAR, Texas AARON SCHOCK, Illinois PAUL W. HODES, New Hampshire CHRISTOPHER S. MURPHY, Connecticut PETER WELCH, Vermont BILL FOSTER, Illinois JACKIE SPEIER, California STEVE DRIEHAUS, Ohio ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ Ron Stroman, Staff Director Michael McCarthy, Deputy Staff Director Carla Hultberg, Chief Clerk Larry Brady, Minority Staff Director Subcommittee on Information Policy, Census, and National Archives WM. LACY CLAY, Missouri, Chairman PAUL E. KANJORSKI, Pennsylvania MICHAEL R. TURNER, Ohio CAROLYN B. MALONEY, New York PATRICK T. McHENRY, North Carolina ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, District of LYNN WESTMORELAND, Georgia Columbia JOHN L. MICA, Florida DANNY K. DAVIS, Illinois JASON CHAFFETZ, Utah STEVE DRIEHAUS, Ohio DIANE E. WATSON, California Darryl Piggee, Staff Director C O N T E N T S ---------- Page Hearing held on March 5, 2009.................................... 1 Statement of: Mesenbourg, Thomas, Acting Director, U.S. Census Bureau; Robert Goldenkoff, Director, Strategic Issues, U.S. Government Accountability Office; David A. Powner, Director, Information Technology, U.S. Government Accountability Office; and Glenn S. Himes, Ph.D., executive director, civilian agencies, Center for Enterprise Modernization, the Mitre Corp.............................. 20 Goldenkoff, Robert....................................... 26 Himes, Glenn S........................................... 60 Mesenbourg, Thomas....................................... 20 Powner, David A.......................................... 48 Letters, statements, etc., submitted for the record by: Clay, Hon. Wm. Lacy, a Representative in Congress from the State of Missouri, prepared statement of................... 3 Goldenkoff, Robert, Director, Strategic Issues, U.S. Government Accountability Office, prepared statement of.... 28 Himes, Glenn S., Ph.D., executive director, civilian agencies, Center for Enterprise Modernization, the Mitre Corp., prepared statement of............................... 62 Maloney, Hon. Carolyn B., a Representative in Congress from the State of New York, prepared statement of............... 18 McHenry, Hon. Patrick T., a Representative in Congress from the State of North Carolina, prepared statement of......... 9 Mesenbourg, Thomas, Acting Director, U.S. Census Bureau, prepared statement of...................................... 23 Powner, David A., Director, Information Technology, U.S. Government Accountability Office, prepared statement of.... 49 Towns, Hon. Edolphus, a Representative in Congress from the State of New York, prepared statement of................... 13 Watson, Hon. Diane E., a Representative in Congress from the State of California, prepared statement of................. 91 STATUS OF THE 2010 CENSUS OPERATIONS ---------- THURSDAY, MARCH 5, 2009 House of Representatives, Subcommittee on Information Policy, Census, and National Archives, Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, Washington, DC. The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10 a.m., in room 2154, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Wm. Lacy Clay (chairman of the subcommittee) presiding. Present: Representatives Clay, McHenry, Maloney, Norton, Driehaus, Towns, Westmoreland, Chaffetz, and Issa. Staff present: Darryl Piggee, staff director/counsel; Jean Gosa, clerk; Michelle Mitchell and Alissa Bonner, professional staff members; Charisma Williams, staff assistant; Leneal Scott, information systems manager; Lawrence Brady, minority staff director; John Cuaderes, minority deputy staff director; Jennifer Safavian, minority chief counsel for oversight and investigations; Dan Blankenburg, minority director of outreach and senior advisor; Adam Fromm, minority chief clerk and Member liaison; Kurt Bardella, minority press secretary; Chapin Fay, minority counsel; and Dr. Christopher Bright, minority senior professional staff member. Mr. Clay. The Information Policy, Census, and National Archives Subcommittee of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee will come to order. Good morning and welcome to today's hearing. We will receive a progress report from the Bureau on its preparations for the 2010 census. We will also examine recommendations made by GAO for improvements needed to address the Bureau's operational challenges and discuss GAO's most recent report on the Bureau's overall readiness for conducting the decennial census. Without objection, the Chair and ranking minority member will have 5 minutes to make opening statements, followed by opening statements not to exceed 3 minutes by any other Member who seeks recognition. We will also recognize each side after the opening statements for 10 minutes each, in agreement with both sides. Without objection, Members and witnesses may have 5 legislative days to submit a written statement or extraneous materials for the record. I will open with my statement and recognize our esteemed colleague, Mr. McHenry, for his opening statement. We are at a critical stage of preparation for next year's decennial census. This will be the Bureau's largest and most expensive census operation, costing taxpayers over $14 billion. The Bureau must use all of these resources to ensure an accurate, fair, and complete count on April 1, 2010. As chairman, my mission is to help the Bureau to conduct the most accurate census in U.S. history. Last time, in 2000, the census missed 3 million Americans and 1.4 million homes. Most of those that were missed were poor, many were minorities, and the majority were from urban areas; and that is just not good enough. My standard is very simple: everyone counts and every person must be counted. The undercount is extremely damaging to States and local communities. It deprives them of proper political representation, Federal formula dollars, and vital information. For every person the Bureau misses, their local community will lose thousands of dollars of Federal funding for 10 years. And given the economic emergency we all face, no city or State can afford to miss anyone. The Bureau has less than 1 month to complete preparations for address canvassing. This essential operation will ensure the accuracy of its master address list automation, and it will play a critical role in the success of the 2010 census. For the first time, addresses will be collected and verified using handheld computers. Today we will focus on the Bureau's progress toward strengthening its integrated IT systems and how they can reduce any risks that would jeopardize an accurate enumeration. I want to thank all of our witnesses for appearing here today, and I look forward to their testimony. We will also be joined today by our chairman on the Oversight Committee, Mr. Towns or New York, and the ranking member of the full committee, Mr. Issa of California. Thank you both for joining us. [The prepared statement of Hon. Wm. Lacy Clay follows:] [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.001 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.002 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.003 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.004 Mr. Clay. I will now yield to the distinguished ranking minority member, Mr. McHenry of North Carolina, for a 5-minute opening statement. Thank you. Mr. McHenry. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to congratulate you on attaining the chairmanship. It is certainly historic for Congress and historic for your family, because your father had the same jurisdiction during his chairmanship, and I know that he is certainly proud of the legacy. Mr. Clay. Stop making me blush. Thank you. Mr. McHenry. But it is an historic moment and I certainly appreciate it. I want to work in a bipartisan way with you to ensure all the things that you said in your opening statement, I concur, and I do have this hope that we can work in a bipartisan basis to ensure that all Americans are counted. I have the same concerns as Chairman Clay about the undercount. I am looking forward to hear the Bureau explain their procedures for the undercount and the overcount. Back in 2008, the full Oversight and Government Reform Committee met to discuss the challenges and funding problems facing the Census Bureau, and identify ways to facilitate a full and accurate count in 2010. Today, almost a year later, we have the opportunity to ask the Bureau exactly where they are in their preparations for the decennial census; where it should be; and how, with Congress's help, it can get there. The decennial census is a huge undertaking, the largest peacetime mobilization this country has ever seen. The data that are collected affect how government and businesses allocate the resources from the State level all the way down to the small towns and communities in my district, in Chairman Clay's district, and all across America. Therefore, it is important that the Bureau be as open and honest as possible about their preparation for a full count in 2010 and any associated problems that they might incur. I think I speak for both myself and the chairman when I say this subcommittee will not point fingers if problems exist-- they always will with such a massive undertaking--and we will certainly work with you to change existing plans, and we will work with you early and often to make that happen. This includes letting us know about any funding needs that may come up along the way. The Bureau recently received $1 billion in the stimulus and another $2.7 billion is currently in the 2009 omnibus before the Senate today, as well as appropriations for 2010. Congress has demonstrated its intent to ensure the Census Bureau has every resource it needs to conduct a full and accurate count. With a sufficiently funded Census Bureau, we can ensure a fair and thorough 2010 census that counts everyone and leaves no justification for using any accounting methods. Finally, I would like to stress the importance of protecting the integrity of the census without manipulation from either party. I know that is rare to hear in Congress. As was reported today, yesterday, in a meeting with the Senate Commerce Committee leaders, Commerce Secretary Designee Gary Locke expressed his desire for a Census Bureau free of political pressure from the White House. I am encouraged by his comments and hope that President Obama accepts the Governor's wishes, and restores control of the Census Bureau to the Department of Commerce. Following that, the next census director, who the President has yet to appoint and name, must also state his opinion on a non-partisan and accurate census. Based on new reports, Governor Locke did express his intention to employ statistical sampling as a ``accuracy check.'' I am certain that during the Governor's confirmation hearings he will clarify what exactly that means. And what it must not mean is that sampling will be used in any way to manipulate the census data for partisan gain. Chairman Clay and I share this goal to ensure that every American, every individual in this country, regardless of any race or socioeconomic status or any locational issues or challenges, or any other characteristic, is not counted. We want to make sure every American is counted. All ideas brought before this subcommittee to help us achieve this goal will be given thorough consideration, and I am confident that together we can formulate a plan to ensure a full and accurate count in 2010. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. [The prepared statement of Hon. Patrick T. McHenry follows:] [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.005 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.006 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.007 Mr. Clay. Thank you, Mr. McHenry. I look forward to our endeavors together. Thank you. Now I recognize the chairman of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee, the gentleman from New York, Mr. Towns. Welcome to the subcommittee. Chairman Towns. Thank you very much. Let me thank you and, of course, the ranking member, Mr. McHenry, and, of course, the ranking member of the full committee, Congressman Issa. This is a very, very important subject, and, of course, the census is a top priority for the committee, and I will be following it very, very closely and will be willing to work with you to make certain that we are getting a fair and accurate count. There is no question that the census is a sensitive issue from a political point of view, because it has a direct impact on how seats are apportioned among the States for this body and the House of Representatives. But my goal is for the committee to carry out its oversight work in a responsible, non-partisan manner. I hope we can keep our focus on the management practices and making certain that they have enough staff to do the job that needs to be done; and let's not get caught up in the political stuff that really does not help us to be able to come up with an accurate count. Of course, I look forward to working with you, Chairman Clay, Mr. McHenry, and, of course, the members of the committee, as well as the ranking member in the full committee, to make certain that this time we get it right. I do believe that we can get it right, but it is going to require all of us focusing on accurate counting rather than the politics of the situation. So thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, and I yield back on that note. [The prepared statement of Hon. Edolphus Towns follows:] [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.008 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.009 Mr. Clay. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I now recognize the gentleman from California, Mr. Issa. Mr. Issa. Thank you, Chairman Clay. Since 1790, America has endeavored to count accurately all the persons in the United States. It is certainly, today, not as automated as we would like in this coming census, but we have tools we didn't have in 1790. We don't have to go up river and check and see who heard that there was a trapper somewhere beyond the last station that anyone knew existed. So in many ways we will have a more accurate count than we did at our founding. It is a given, though, that we will not have a perfect count. But since estimates begin after the account, it is critical that we have an actual count from which so many estimates are made of other materials. That is the goal of this committee. I can see that it is the goal of this committee on a bipartisan basis. And the chairman of the full committee, as well--talked about the importance of an accurate count and of the census in general, I think he did so for a reason that many people today, at this hearing, may not yet understand, and that is that we have the shortest Constitution in the world and, yet, it includes the requirement to count every 10 years every person in the United States. Not every citizen; not every voter. Every person. For that reason, it is something that has been non- partisan since our founding, and I am sure will remain so. Today, I look forward to hearing from our witnesses how we may strive to be more efficient, if possible, but more effective than ever before in that endeavor, because I am sure that the man or woman up the river in 1790 didn't get counted for reasons of difficulty in getting to that count, and I am sure there will be people like that in this decade. But I would like to hear how we can reduce to the absolute minimum any undercount or error in counting. With that, Mr. Chairman, I thank you and yield back. Mr. Clay. I thank the gentleman from California and I appreciate your comments and your historic perspective on the census. I now would like to recognize our colleague from Ohio, Mr. Driehaus, for an opening statement. Mr. Driehaus. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you very much for calling this hearing this morning. As has already been stated by the Members, it is critically important that we get the count right when it comes to the census. I happen to represent, Mr. Chairman, the city of Cincinnati in my congressional district, and the city of Cincinnati led the charge in challenging the count in the last census because we had so many people, especially in low income and minority communities in Cincinnati, that were not counted. Obviously, this is an issue that is near and dear to our mayor, Mark Mallory, who has led the charge on behalf of the mayors of cities across the country to make sure that we are in fact ensuring an accurate count of all people, as has been mentioned by Mr. Issa. So I fully support the efforts of the committee, and I would like to invite you, Mr. Chairman, and the committee, if you are considering field hearings on the topic, to come on out to Southwest Ohio and Cincinnati. I am sure our mayor would greet us with open arms, and we certainly want to make sure, in Cincinnati, that we have a fair count. So I thank you and I look forward to the testimony today. Mr. Clay. I thank the gentleman for the invitation. Your mayor is a wonderful leader of that community and we look forward to the visit. I want to recognize the gentleman from Utah, Mr. Chaffetz. Mr. Chaffetz. Thank you. I simply want to echo the sentiments of the chairman and of the ranking member, the idea and the notion that we have a fair and accurate count. I also just want to express--and I hope it can be carried back to the men and women who will be the foot soldiers, if you will, who will be out there participating in this census. I hope they understand the important duty they take on, but also the thanks from their Government. It is going to be tough, difficult work over a long period of time, but there is a great deal of appreciation for the men and women who will serve and spend their time, effort, and talents in order to execute this census in a fair manner. Just please know that this committee, this body of the U.S. Congress, appreciates their service, to all those who are serving this country for this very important endeavor. With that, I yield back the balance of my time. Thank you. Mr. Clay. I thank the gentleman from Utah for his opening statement. I know they have a stake in this upcoming census. Mr. Chaffetz. I am just glad to be counted on this panel, Mr. Chairman. [Laughter.] Mr. Clay. I recognize the gentlewoman from New York, Mrs. Maloney. Mrs. Maloney. Thank you so much, Chairman Clay, for calling this hearing. And thank you also to Chairman Towns for attending, as well as Ranking Members Issa and McHenry. Thank you so much for being here on this important issue. Well, it must be the year before the decennial, since the census is so much in the news. As Yogi Berra used to say, ``it's deja vu all over again.'' This is just like it was in 1999. We have press conferences, press releases, charges, countercharges, accusations. So the census must be next year. Today we have a hearing to see how the census is doing in getting ready for 2010. But this hearing is where the similarities to 2000 end. The controversies of the 2000 census were over the attempts by the scientists at the Census Bureau to use methods to improve a more accurate count. These were ideological differences over how to accomplish that goal. Today we have a census that has real operational problems, a census that is facing many last minute operational changes that have not gone through field testing to the extent that operational issues were field-tested in 2000. We are not anywhere near the level of attention and testing that took place in 2000. Let's just look at one area: the fingerprinting operation. This was added just last summer by the Bush administration. Hundreds of thousands of applicants that census will want to hire will have to be fingerprinted. The images run through the Justice Department's computers and then the results returned to the field offices next year. None of this operation has been field-tested anywhere close to the type of testing that was done prior to 2000 for similar operations. What if it fails or slows the hiring process? This would really hurt the operations of the census. Or let us look at the proposed second mailing of census forms. Here you have an operation that was looked at in 2000, and rejected in 2000, that has been added to 2010 without a clear explanation as to how the problems that led to its rejection in 2000 would be dealt with. Or how the management systems that handle payroll and the enumerators work, since we have had to revert to a paper census, after going to a handheld seemed unworkable after spending millions of dollars. None of them have been given testing anywhere close to what was done in 2000. Hopefully, we will hear good news today. But I suspect that we will not hear enough that will convince us that there is not real operational problems in the Census Bureau. Mr. Chairman, as we look at the 2010 census in the coming months, I hope that you and the committee will also take the time to start looking at 2020--something I know that the Government Accountability Office is already doing--as to how we can avoid this type of situation in the future. As you know, I, along with Chairman Dent and Charlie Gonzalez and many others, have put forth bipartisan legislation to make the Census Bureau an independent agency, to allow it to work over the next 10- year cycle of the census without interference, without changing guidelines, without having its budget diminished and changed and moved around. I hope that the committee will be able to look at that in the coming months as we deal with the problems we will be facing in 2010. Thank you very much, and I thank all the panelists for being here and all my colleagues. [The prepared statement of Hon. Carolyn B. Maloney follows:] [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.010 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.011 Mr. Clay. I thank the gentlewoman for her opening statement and realize that the census is a work in progress, and we have to continue to attempt to perfect it. So I thank you and look forward to working with you. If there are no additional opening statements, the subcommittee will now receive testimony from the witnesses before us today. I want to start by introducing our panel. We have with us Mr. Thomas Mesenbourg, the Acting Director of the U.S. Census Bureau. Welcome. Mr. Robert Goldenkoff, Director of Strategic Issues at the GAO. Thank you for being here. Mr. Goldenkoff's responsibilities include directing work on the 2010 census. He is accompanied by Mr. David Powner, Director of Information Technology Management Issues. Good to see you again, Mr. Powner. And last, but certainly not least, Mr. Glenn Himes, who is executive director of the Center for Enterprise Modernization at the MITRE Corp. I want to welcome all of you all to our hearing today. It is the policy of the Oversight and Government Reform Committee to swear in all witnesses before they testify. Would all of you please stand and raise your right hands? [Witnesses sworn.] Mr. Clay. Thank you. Let the record reflect that all of the witnesses answered in the affirmative. Each of you will have 5 minutes to make an opening statement. Your complete written testimony will be included in the hearing record. The yellow light will indicate it is time to sum up; the red light will indicate your time has expired. Mr. Mesenbourg, you may proceed with your opening statement. STATEMENTS OF THOMAS MESENBOURG, ACTING DIRECTOR, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU; ROBERT GOLDENKOFF, DIRECTOR, STRATEGIC ISSUES, U.S. GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE; DAVID A. POWNER, DIRECTOR, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, U.S. GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY OFFICE; AND GLENN S. HIMES, PH.D., EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, CIVILIAN AGENCIES, CENTER FOR ENTERPRISE MODERNIZATION, THE MITRE CORP. STATEMENT OF THOMAS MESENBOURG Mr. Mesenbourg. Chairman Clay, Chairman Towns, Ranking Member McHenry and Issa, and members of the subcommittee, I appreciate the opportunity to report on the Census Bureau's preparations for the 2010 census. The census is upon us. April 1, 2010 is only 392 days from today and I can report we are well on our way toward a successful enumeration. A complete and accurate address list is the cornerstone of a successful census. Throughout the decade, we regularly updated the address list we used in census 2000. In 2007, we invited tribal, State, and local governments to review our address list for accuracy and completeness as part of the Local Update of Census Address Programs [LUCA]. 11,500 government entities registered for LUCA, and over 8,100 provided updates. That accounted for an additional 8 million addresses that we have added to our address list. Address canvassing, the first major operation in the 2010 census, starts on March 30th and runs through July 17, 2009. During address canvassing, 140,000 Census Bureau employees will walk almost every street in America, checking and updating 145 million addresses. Then, in late September, we will validate the listings for group quarters, which include dormitories, group homes, prisons, and the like. This is the first time that group quarters are part of address canvassing, and their inclusion will improve the accuracy and the coverage of the final count. In December 2008, we conducted the address canvassing operational field test. The test provided an opportunity for our field staff to test the key functionality of the handheld computers in an environment that approximates a real census. Headquarters staff and all of our 12 regional directors participated in the test. The Government Accountability Office and the Commerce Department's Inspector General staff observed the test. The positive results demonstrated the significant improvement that we have made since dress rehearsal and reinforced our confidence in the operation's production readiness. In April 2008, the Secretary announced the decision not to use handhelds to collect data during the nonresponse followup operation. Late last spring, we completed the high level plan for enumerators to use paper forms to collect information from non-respondents, just as we have done in previous censuses. In October 2008, we re-scoped the field data collection automation contract responsibilities. The Census Bureau took over responsibility for a number of operations, including the help desk and the operational control system, which is the nerve center for our 494 local census offices that will be responsible for 2010 data collection operations. We made these re-scoping decisions to reduce the overall risk to the census. We have done these operations before and we are confident in our ability to do them again. At the end of January 2009, we completed the schedule for development, testing, and deployment of the 2010 operational control system that will support 2010 data collection activities, including nonresponse followup. We are making good progress on system development and testing is scheduled to begin April 20, 2009. We will also continue to closely monitor the development and testing of the paper-based operations themselves. We agree with GAO for the need of a comprehensive testing program. We believe, over the past 11 months, we have established a very robust testing program that is responsive to the recent GAO testing recommendations. GAO made nine recommendations outlining 28 steps that should be taken to strengthen our testing program. We have already implemented 16 of the steps they specified, and 8 others are planned to be implemented. Of the remaining four steps, two of the steps take place later in the cycle and we will implement them at the appropriate time, and an additional step we are going to seek clarification from GAO about their intent on those. We are also taking steps to address GAO's concerns related to cost estimates. We appreciate GAO's recommendations and we recently provided them with an action plan, and we certainly are committed to implementing those steps outlined in that plan. In closing, I believe that our current plan has significantly reduced the risk to the 2010 census, and we are prepared to meet the challenges that lie ahead. Members of the subcommittee, the Census Bureau is on track for a successful census, and I am happy to take your questions. [The prepared statement of Mr. Mesenbourg follows:] [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.012 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.013 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.014 Mr. Clay. Thank you for your testimony, Mr. Mesenbourg. Mr. Goldenkoff, you may proceed for 5 minutes. STATEMENT OF ROBERT GOLDENKOFF Mr. Goldenkoff. Chairman Clay, Chairman Towns, Ranking Members McHenry and Issa, and members of the subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to be here today to provide a progress report on the 2010 census. I am here with Dave Powner, a Director in GAO's Information Technology team. As requested, in our remarks today, I will provide a broad overview of the status of key census-taking operations and Dave will focus on the finding and recommendations contained in our report on IT testing, which we are releasing today. This morning's hearing is particularly timely. Exactly 1 year ago today, GAO designated the 2010 census a high risk area for three reasons. First, there were weaknesses in the Census Bureau's IT acquisition and contract management function; second, there were problems with the performance of handheld computers used to collect data; and, third, the ultimate cost of the census is uncertain, although it is currently estimated at more than $14 billion. At the same time, just over 1 year from now, it will be census day. Little time remains to address the challenges that have emerged thus far and make final preparations for the numerous operations that will take place throughout 2010. The poster board to my right, which is a timeline of key census- taking activities, shows some of the work that lies ahead and the need to stay on schedule in order to keep the census on track. Because of legally mandated deadlines, the Bureau can't call a timeout or press a reset button. In short, today's hearing is a convenient weigh station on the road to census day, a time to look back on the Census Bureau's efforts over the past year to address the operational challenges that have emerged thus far, as well as to look ahead to what the Bureau needs to do in the coming months to help ensure a successful headcount. Importantly, the Bureau has made commendable progress over the past year in rolling out key components of the census and has strengthened certain risk management efforts. Still, the census remains high risk because the dress rehearsal of all census operations that was planned for 2008 was curtailed. As a result, critical activities, including some that will be used for the first time in a census, were not tested in concert with one another or under census-like conditions. The bottom line is that key census-taking activities, including those that will ultimately drive the final cost and accuracy of the count, continue to face challenges and the Bureau's overall readiness for 2010 is uncertain. One such challenge is building the Bureau's address list. Because a complete and accurate address list is the foundation of a successful census, the Bureau has a number of operations aimed at including every residence in the country and works with the U.S. Postal Service, agencies at all levels of Government, as well as a number of non-governmental entities. In a few weeks, the Bureau will send thousands of workers to walk every street in the country to update the census address list and maps in an operation called address canvassing. Census workers will use handheld computers to collect data. As you know, when the devices were tested, they experienced performance problems such as freeze-ups and unreliable transmissions. The Bureau took steps to fix these issues, and the results of a small scale test held last December are encouraging. Nonetheless, more information is needed to determine the Bureau's overall readiness for address canvassing, as the field test was not an end-to-end systems test, did not validate training, help desk support, and other requirements, and did not include urban areas. Uncertainties also surround the Bureau's ability to implement operations that will be used for the first time in a decennial census, including a targeted second mailing to reduce the nonresponse followup workload and the need to fingerprint temporary census workers. The Bureau's readiness for these activities is uncertain because they have not been tested under census-like conditions. Another challenge facing the Bureau is reducing the undercount. As with past numerations, the Bureau is putting forth tremendous effort to reach groups that are often missed by the census, such as minorities, renters, and people with limited English proficiency. For example, the Bureau plans to provide language assistance guides in 59 languages, an increase from 49 languages in 2000. The Bureau also plans to deploy a comprehensive communications campaign consisting of, among other efforts, paid advertising and the hiring of as many as 680 partnership staff who will be tasked with reaching out to local governments, community groups, and other organizations in an effort to secure a more complete count. Although the effects of the Bureau's communication efforts are difficult to measure, the Bureau reported some positive results from its 2000 census marketing efforts with respect to raising awareness of the census. Still, a longstanding challenge for the Bureau is converting that awareness of the census into an actual response. In summary, just 13 months remain until census day. At a time when major testing should be complete and there should be confidence in the functionality of key operations, the Bureau, instead, finds itself managing late design changes and developing testing plans. The Bureau has taken important steps toward mitigating some of the challenges that it has faced to date, yet much remains uncertain, and the risks to a successful census continue. I will now turn it over to my colleague, Dave Powner, who will discuss the Bureau's management. 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Chairman Clay, Chairman Towns, Ranking Member McHenry, and members of the subcommittee, the accuracy of the 2010 census depends in large part on the proper functioning of IT systems, both individually and when integrated together. Mr. Chairman, your oversight of the Bureau's acquisition of IT systems was critical last year. In particular, the field data collection system is no longer spiraling out of control, and that contract is $500 million less than the initial estimates provided at your hearings last summer. Your oversight is needed once again in the technology area to ensure that between now and census day these systems are rigorously tested. Today, we are releasing our latest report, completed at your request, which highlights that significant testing remains. Six major systems need to complete systems testing, and much integration testing needs to occur. Plans for conducting this testing are not completely in place. In order to ensure effective test execution, the Bureau needs comprehensive metrics to monitor test completion and effective executive level oversight to keep the pressure on and to manage risks. Our report contains 10 detailed recommendations that the Bureau has agreed to address. For example, integration testing includes testing of the interfaces or the handshake between systems. Our work found that not only were there not complete plans or schedules for integration testing of these interfaces, but there was not even a master list or inventory of interfaces. Not having such basic information at this stage is unacceptable, and our recommendations call for the Bureau to develop a master list of interfaces, prioritize the interfaces based on criticality and need date, and to use this to develop all needed integration plans. To the Bureau's credit, we are seeing more plans and better metrics, but there is still much work ahead in both areas. I would like to stress the need to prioritize. It is likely the Bureau will not have enough time to test everything, and testing the most important aspects of certain systems, interfaces, and operations is critical given the limited time remaining. Mr. Chairman, again, thank you for your leadership, and I look forward to your questions. [The prepared statement of Mr. Powner follows:] [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.035 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.036 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.037 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.038 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.039 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.040 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.041 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.042 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.043 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.044 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.045 Mr. Clay. Thank you so much, Mr. Powner, and thank you for this report outlining what remains ahead for the Bureau. We certainly will exercise that oversight to ensure that they meet these standards. Dr. Himes, you are recognized for 5 minutes. STATEMENT OF GLENN S. HIMES Mr. Himes. Thank you, and good morning. Thank you for the opportunity you have given to The MITRE Corp. to update the committee on critical operations for the 2010 decennial census. The MITRE Corp. is a not-for-profit organization chartered to work in the public interest. MITRE manages three federally Funded Research and Development Centers [FFRDCs]: one for the Department of Defense, one for the Federal Aviation Administration, and one for the Internal Revenue Service. Governed by Part 35.017 of the Federal Acquisition Regulations, FFRDCs operate in the public interest with objectivity, independence, freedom from conflict of interest, and full disclosure of their affairs to the respective Government sponsors. It continues to be our privilege to serve with the talented engineers and other professionals who support the Census Bureau in its efforts to prepare and conduct the 2010 decennial census. We are pleased to report that since MITRE's last appearance before this committee in July, that the Bureau has demonstrated continued improvements in managing and overseeing preparations for the 2010 decennial census. These improvements include an increase in processes and tools to monitor program progress and to identify potential risks. We are also pleased to report that many significant issues with the field data collection automation control have been resolved. Approximately a year ago we expressed concerns about the cost, schedule, and performance risks for the FDCA program to the Census Bureau. A risk reduction task force established by the Secretary of Commerce and the Director of the Census Bureau recommended a rebalancing of work from the contractor to the Government. The goal was to enable the contractor to focus on the software system necessary to perform the address canvassing operation. Based on our observations, it appears that the rebalancing has achieved its intended effect, and the risks to the address canvassing operation are substantially reduced. Although the rebalancing was essential, much of the progress is due to positive steps by the Census Bureau's FDCA program management office and the contractor's development team. Both organizations should be commended for establishing an effective working relationship and overcoming the large challenges they faced in the past year. Although we are cautiously optimistic about the address canvassing operation, risks remain within it and other operations for the 2010 decennial census. These risks are natural for such large programs. Census Bureau personnel update and monitor these risks on a regular basis, and constant attention will be required until the decennial is completed. We remain committed to helping the Census Bureau prepare for a successful 2010 decennial census. Thank you for inviting us to this hearing, and I would be happy to answer your questions. [The prepared statement of Mr. Himes follows:] [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.046 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.047 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.048 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.049 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.050 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.051 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.052 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.053 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.054 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.055 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.056 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.057 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T0732.058 Mr. Clay. Thank you so much, Dr. Himes, for your testimony. We will begin under a 10 minute rule for each side, and I will start with Mr. Mesenbourg. Mr. Mesenbourg, it sounds like the Bureau has come a long way since our last meeting. I commend you and your staff. A lot of the work was inspired by GAO findings, so I want to also commend Mr. Powner and Mr. Goldenkoff, along with Mr. Goldenkoff's predecessor, Matthew Siree, for the great work their teams have done on the 2010 census. It was GAO that first brought to this committee's attention the problems with FDCA. They recommended consistent oversight, to which this subcommittee has been committed. I also want to commend Dr. Himes for the important role MITRE has played in helping the Bureau to resolve problems. Let's go straight to testing. GAO made 10 recommendations to ensure that testing activities for key systems are completed. What action is the Bureau taking or planning to address GAO's recommendations? Mr. Mesenbourg. Mr. Chairman, we have provided a detailed response to GAO, but let me just sum up some of the major steps that we have done. Last April, when the decision was made to re-plan the census and to shift from the handheld use in the nonresponse followup to a paper base, we did a thorough review at that point of our testing program. We did an inventory of the testing and we found some data gaps, and then we addressed those by adding additional tests. We also, later last year, appointed a testing officer with responsibility over all testing for the decennial census, and we have made testing metrics a key part of every operational review. So we look at the census. We have about 51 key operations that we are doing, and those are things like nonresponse followup. We have 25 systems that those operations interact with, and we have 244 interfaces between systems. So late last year we also appointed an integration manager who has responsibility to make sure all of the activities that we took out of the FDCA contract now will fit together and will be integrated. We clearly face some challenges, given the de-scoping of the census. So we took over about 11 key paper operations. And I think we are being responsive to Mr. Powner's comment of trying to prioritize. So we are implementing what we would call a thread test, and those are key activities within a process, for example, our first focus is on nonresponse followup and group quarters evaluation. Testing on those activities and the operational control system will begin on April 20th. We think those two operations test a huge amount of the functionality that we will use in the other nine operations. Mr. Clay. OK, let me stop you right there and ask you in the report, GAO stated that in May 2008 the Bureau established an inventory of all testing activities specific to all key decennial operations, but that the inventory had not been updated since that time. What is the current status of testing activities for the 2010 census? Mr. Mesenbourg. At this point, we do have a comprehensive inventory of all of the testing that we need to do. Given the time constraints that we are under, there will be some operations that we have performed in the past that we will not test as thoroughly as we will some of the new activities. Mr. Clay. Where is the Bureau on the development of the operations control system for paper-based operations? Mr. Mesenbourg. OK, at the end of January, we integrated the schedule for the operational control system that will control 11 paper-based operations in the census. We integrated that into the master activities schedule. So that is done. And we do have a detailed plan at this point, and schedule, for what we are calling Release-0. Release-0 will focus on the nonresponse followup and the group quarters enumeration. Then we will follow with a Release-1, which will take on additional operations such as remote Alaska. So I believe we have a detailed plan that we can move ahead, and each one of those releases will have testing as part of the sign-off. Mr. Clay. And at what date certain can we expect you to report to this subcommittee that adequate plans for total end- to-end testing are in place? Mr. Mesenbourg. To be honest, there will not be end-to-end testing of all operations, because what we will have to do is we will test at key functionality, which will show up in other operations. What we are going to do, for example, the push of the nonresponse followup into the--that functionality we can test based on the dress rehearsal responses. We will put up a mock environment that will send workload to be identified for nonresponse followup, and we will be able to test that in the operational control system that will control nonresponse followup. Mr. Clay. Now, you heard Mr. Powner say time is of the essence, and you still have six major systems that still need to be tested. Are you cognizant that time is of the essence, that we are closing in on a year to go? Mr. Mesenbourg. Mr. Chairman, we are very cognizant that time is of the essence. We have an extremely tight schedule, and it is going to be critically important that we stick to that schedule. Mr. Clay. OK, thank you for that response. Mr. Driehaus, you may followup. Mr. Driehaus. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just have one very brief question for Mr. Mesenbourg. Mr. Mesenbourg, I am particularly concerned about the number of houses that are currently in foreclosure across the country, and the transience we are seeing in our population. You know, the movements of population that we are seeing, especially in the inner cities, that are traditionally difficult to count, you know, we are seeing folks move around at record levels; and I am concerned as to whether or not the Census Bureau is taking the necessary steps to account for that movement and how you are coping with that. Mr. Mesenbourg. It is a growing problem, there is no doubt about that. The address canvassing operation that we will start at March 30th will visit every address, whether occupied or vacant. So the critical first step is to ensure that we have a complete address list for the 2010 decennial census. So that is job one, to make sure we have the list. Mid-March of next year we will mail out report forms to almost every household in the United States. If that address is vacant, then they will not respond the form and they will go into the nonresponse followup operation. We will send an enumerator to that address to see if anyone is there. If they are there, we will collect the data. We will go back six times to make sure that we can reach a person. If it is unoccupied, of course, we will miss them. We have taken some steps to address this issue, so we have added two questions to the 10-question 2010 census form that gets at coverage problems. One of those questions relates to do you have a relative living with you that you may not have listed on the report form. That will kick off an action to put that into a followup activity that will try to identify why that person wasn't listed. So that will be one way that we will attempt to address the issue of foreclosures and people moving in to non-traditional living arrangements. But I think a key message of both our advertising and our partnership program will be is to get out into the local community and to convince them, through trusted voices in the community, that if you are doubling up or if you are living in a non-traditional living arrangement, that it is important that you be counted and that you are listed on the report form. Mr. Clay. Thank you so much. Mr. McHenry, you are recognized for 10 minutes. Mr. McHenry. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you all for testifying today. We certainly appreciate it. This is an important matter that we take very seriously, and I know you do as well. Mr. Mesenbourg, thank you for your service. I know it has only been brief. You are serving Government only 36 years, and we thank you for it. When the short-timer, Mr. Jackson, sitting behind you, is only there for 20 years, we certainly know you have expertise and great knowledge based on experience, so thank you. So, Mr. Mesenbourg, it is my understanding there are plans to conduct a post-enumeration survey as part of the 2010 census. Is this correct? Mr. Mesenbourg. We do have plans to do a coverage measurement program as part of the 2010 census. Mr. McHenry. OK. What is the sample size of this service? Mr. Mesenbourg. Sample size is going to be about 300,000 housing units. Mr. McHenry. OK. Is this comparable to the 2000 census? Mr. Mesenbourg. It is comparable to the 2000 census. Mr. McHenry. Is it the same number or---- Mr. Mesenbourg. It is very close to the same number. Mr. McHenry. Do you recall what the 2000 number was? Mr. Mesenbourg. I don't, off the top of my head, but certainly we can get you that number. Mr. McHenry. Certainly. And has the Bureau increased or changed the post-enumeration survey for this census? Mr. Mesenbourg. We have made some changes to do a better job trying to identify duplicates in the census. That was an issue in 2000. The focus of the 2010 coverage measurement program is to provide better information about the components of error. So we will be providing data not only on the net error, but also components of error such as duplicates, omissions, and so on. Mr. McHenry. Has this been changed in the planning process or is this a change from the 2000 census? Mr. Mesenbourg. This has been the plan during the entire decade. Mr. McHenry. OK. And how does the Bureau tend to use the post-enumeration survey? You outlined generally, but more specifically? Mr. Mesenbourg. We are using it primarily to provide measures of the error and as input to improving the 2020 decennial census. Mr. McHenry. OK. And is there any thought that the Bureau would use this survey to adjust or change the 2010 count? Mr. Mesenbourg. The plan does not include any plans to use the coverage measurement for adjustment. Mr. McHenry. OK. Are there any other thoughts to that or any other considerations to that? Mr. Mesenbourg. Not in our current plan there isn't. Mr. McHenry. OK. Yesterday, as I mentioned in my opening statement, it has been reported that Commerce Secretary Designee Gary Locke met with leaders of the Senate Commerce Committee and, according to the news reports, stated that ``so- called sampling will be used minimally as an accuracy check.'' I believe he is referring to the post-enumeration survey. Is that how you would read it? Mr. Mesenbourg. Well, the coverage measurement will provide estimates of the number of housing units and the number of persons. Then you will have the apportionment number also. But I am not sure what Governor Locke had in mind. Mr. McHenry. Yes, it is hard to impute from politicians what they mean. So that would be somewhat in keeping with what you have outlined, just as a survey to check the accuracy. OK. Now, in terms of a fair and accurate census, what is your definition of a fair and accurate census? Mr. Mesenbourg. Well, we see job one as to count everyone, and we see an expanded advertising and partnership program as a key part of doing that. We also have done a number of additional things from an operational perspective that we hope will improve the count. This will be the first time we are using a short form only census, so 10 questions, 10 minutes to fill it out. We also will be using a bilingual form, English- Spanish, that will target 13 million households in areas where English is not often spoken at home. We will be using a second mailing, a targeted second mailing, doing a blanket mailing to traditionally low response, low mail response areas, and then sending a replacement form out to another group, to the non-respondents. And we hope and expect that a much more robust partnership program will get the message out to the local community that it is critical to participate in the census. Mr. McHenry. So, in short, do you believe the Bureau's main goal for the 2010 census is to count every person once, only once, and at the right place? Mr. Mesenbourg. That has always been our goal. Mr. McHenry. All right. So that means a count of people. That means an exact enumeration in counting. Mr. Mesenbourg. We will make every effort we can to get a response, an actual response back from every household in the United States. Mr. McHenry. Two of the greatest challenges, you have mentioned this and I am glad the Bureau has really thought through the undercount and overcount numbers, and appreciate the fact that you have programs directly focused on the undercount. Would you describe the challenge of the undercount and the overcount as one of the most challenging of the challenges the Bureau faces in the 2010 census? Mr. Mesenbourg. Well, I think it would be clear getting people to participate is the biggest challenge. So missing people is, in my mind, a more significant challenge than addressing the duplicates. We have done both things, we have added two coverage questions to the 2010 census. One is to help us get at undercount, where someone incorrectly or mistakenly left a person off the report form that should have been on the report form; and we have added another question to help address the overcount, where someone may have included, let's say, for example, a college student that should have been counted at the dorm where they spend most of their time. So there are two questions there, and answers to those questions will generate a telephone call as part of our coverage followup operations to try to gather more information to get the person counted in the right place. Mr. McHenry. Well, I think we all understand the sensitivities of ensuring that undercounted communities and people are focused upon and ensure that we actually get them counted, which takes a lot of effort, a lot of resources, and we want to be of assistance to that with you and the stakeholders in this. With that, I would like to yield the remainder of my time to the deputy ranking member, Congressman Westmoreland, from Georgia. Mr. Westmoreland. Thank you, Congressman McHenry. First to Mr. Goldenkoff and Mr. Powner. You know, I have been in quite a few of these oversight hearings and I have seen a lot of reports from the GAO, and I have never seen one that said you all are doing a good job. So I know that you all do a very good job. But this comes pretty close, when it says that there are no new recommendations. Now, is that because you didn't go in and look at everything again, or are you just going on a past report? Either one of you. Mr. Goldenkoff. I think what you are referring to is our testimony today, and the reasons that there were no new recommendations is that all our recommendations---- Mr. Clay. Maybe if you move it closer to you, Mr. Goldenkoff. Mr. Goldenkoff. I think what you are referring to is our testimony where we said that there were no new recommendations. That was just because our testimony was based on previously issued work, most of which did contain recommendations. Mr. Westmoreland. OK. Mr. Powner. And, Congressman Westmoreland, I just want to be clear. Mr. Westmoreland. OK. Mr. Powner. We are releasing a report today on system testing, so not to disappoint. We have 10 new recommendations today that we are releasing for the first time, on testing. Mr. Westmoreland. OK. One of the other things that you had talked about was the complete and accurate address list. Is that correct? Mr. Goldenkoff. That is correct. Mr. Westmoreland. When do you think the best time would have been to get a complete and accurate address list? Mr. Goldenkoff. It is something that goes on throughout the decade. The Bureau is constantly working with the Postal Service, through the Postal Service's delivery sequence file, to update the address list. And now, as was already mentioned, or starting in April, the Bureau will go out and actually walk every street in the country to verify on the ground housing units, occupied housing units; and it is a difficult task because it is not always clear what meets the eye. There could be several families living in there, so you really have to go within six inches of a house sometimes to see double doorbells, two names on a mailbox that could indicate that there might be somebody living in the basement or in the shed in the back. So it is a very challenging task. Mr. Westmoreland. I understand. But the reality of it is, I guess, the last address check is going to be the most accurate, and to me, at least, the Census Bureau, from information and testimony I heard today from Mr. Mesenbourg, is that they have asked local cities and counties and others to do that, and they are trying to make sure that the information that they have before they do the mailing is also the most recent and most up to date and the most correct information. Would you agree with that? Mr. Goldenkoff. That is correct. You need to do it as close as possible to census day, but at the same time allow for the updating to take place so they can do the mail-out. So there needs to be some buffer in there. Mr. Westmoreland. Thank you. Mr. Clay. Thank you, Mr. Westmoreland. My friend from New York, Mrs. Maloney, is recognized for 5 minutes. Mrs. Maloney. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to ask the representatives from GAO to respond to the earlier question on whether or not the operational testing on payroll, personnel changes, etc., were up to the systems of 2000? Are they at the same level? Are you pleased and agree with the prior answers to this question, that operational testing was correct, in place, and happening to the degree that it should to make sure that our systems do not falter or fail? Mr. Goldenkoff. I would disagree with that. One of the issues is that there was no dress rehearsal, and the dress rehearsal, as the name implies, is essentially a test census, as close to census-like conditions as one can possibly get without actually conducting the census. So because it was curtailed, what was done during the dress rehearsal was fairly limited, there were certain operations that just weren't tested, so the Bureau is going into 2010 now conducting the actual census, in some respects, flying blind. For example, there was no load testing. The number of millions of forms, millions of pieces of paper need to be process, and the Bureau never had an opportunity to test under, in a lot of cases, anything close to a load test of what would be a simulated census. So it really fell quite short of that. Mrs. Maloney. Well, what are the contingencies if these systems falter or fail? What are the contingencies? Mr. Goldenkoff. In some cases, the Bureau, if it starts falling behind, the Bureau has been good in the past with workarounds and patches. It all depends on how bad the problem is. You know, in some cases the Bureau will fall behind schedule, and that has implications for downstream operations. In other cases things might cost more money. But that is one of the issues, that in some cases there is no backup or there is no contingency; it has to be done and done right. Mrs. Maloney. I would like to followup with a question on the budget. You really can't move forward without a proper budget. Do you have a full 10-year cycle cost estimate for the decennial operations that you could give the committee today? Mr. Mesenbourg. Yes. Our expectation is the life cycle cost is going to be between $14 billion and $15 billion for the decennial census. If I could, I would like to just respond briefly on the payroll system. The decennial applicant payroll system is up and running. This is the key tool that we use to process applicants and then to pay them. So at this point in time we have over a million applicants in that system. We are actually only going to hire about 140,000 people for address canvassing, but the demand for jobs has been so huge that we have had over a million applicants; and right now we have about 10,000 people that are getting paid through this system, and in another couple weeks that will jump up by about 140,000. Mrs. Maloney. How much money were you given in the stimulus plan? Mr. Mesenbourg. We were given $1 billion. Mrs. Maloney. $1 billion? Mr. Mesenbourg. $1 billion. Mrs. Maloney. And what are your plans for spending the additional money you were given in the stimulus plan? Mr. Mesenbourg. The whole focus of this is to do as good a job as we can improving the count, and the bill language directed us to focus that money on enhanced and improved advertising and partnership activities, and that certainly is our intention. We also hope to invest additional moneys in our coverage followup operation, adding about another million to the workload; and then the remainder of the funds would be there to support key 2010 activities. But in the short term, in terms of 2009, the expenditures will be primarily focused on expanded media buys and advertising and our partnership program. Mrs. Maloney. And with the remaining money to make other choices, what is your basis for making these choices? Do you have an analysis of what needs to be done or other areas that you need help and support to make a more accurate census? Mr. Mesenbourg. Our criteria have been to focus on those activities that will contribute the most to the census. Actually, we have provided a plan to the Office of Management and Budget in terms of what our focus is, and we are awaiting their response at this point. Mrs. Maloney. Thank you very much. My time is expended, is no longer. I have used up my time. Thank you. Thank you for all your hard work. Mr. Clay. Thank you so much, Mrs. Maloney. I now go to the gentleman from Utah, Mr. Chaffetz, for 5 minutes. Mr. Chaffetz. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Mesenbourg, you are a career civil servant, correct? Mr. Mesenbourg. Yes, I am. Mr. Chaffetz. With more than adequate funding, do you believe the Bureau has the talent and capability to oversee a professionally implemented and successful 2010 census? Mr. Mesenbourg. I do. Mr. Chaffetz. I would like your opinion, as the Census Bureau professional, on an important matter. You are currently operating without a Presidentially appointed, Senate-confirmed director, correct? Mr. Mesenbourg. That is true. Mr. Chaffetz. Do you believe the Bureau has the talent and expertise to continue planning for and implementing a successful 2010 census without a Presidentially appointed, Senate-confirmed director? Mr. Mesenbourg. Well, I am doing two jobs at this point, and I guess what I see my job is right now is to continue to execute the plans to conduct a successful 2010 census. I have no ambitions to be permanent director of the Census Bureau, but my job is to keep that train moving down the track so, when we do get a Census Bureau director, we are in a better place than we were before. Mr. Chaffetz. But do you believe that the Bureau has the talent and expertise currently in place right now to execute? Mr. Mesenbourg. I believe we have the talent to keep the train moving down the track. I am not going to take a position whether we should have a director or not have a director. We have always had a director and I would---- Mr. Chaffetz. Fair enough. Mr. Mesenbourg [continuing]. I think a director would be useful for us. Mr. Chaffetz. As you know, the results of the 2010 census are used for appointment, redistricting at all levels of government, and the allocation of Federal funds. All of this is correct, right? Mr. Mesenbourg. That is true. Mr. Chaffetz. So, in your opinion, is it better to conduct a census that is free from political influence, or do you think politicians should be telling you how to do your job? Mr. Mesenbourg. Well, the Census Bureau, in my 36 years, we have made decisions, technical decisions and program decisions, on the technical merit of the issues. We have not made decisions based on any kind of political pressure. That has been my experience over 36 years. Mr. Chaffetz. The census is based on the Constitution, correct? Mr. Mesenbourg. That is true. Mr. Chaffetz. Do you recall which article or whatnot? Mr. Mesenbourg. That is embarrassing to say, not. Mr. Chaffetz. Article 1 of the Constitution deals with the powers of Congress, the legislative branch of our Government, correct? Mr. Mesenbourg. True. Mr. Chaffetz. So regarding anything having to do with the conduct of the census, it should be the Congress that has the authority and jurisdiction, do you agree? Mr. Mesenbourg. You are getting me into territory I am not an expert on. It is clear the Congress has a responsibility to oversee our operations, yes. I would agree with that. Mr. Chaffetz. How will the Bureau protect the integrity of the census from outright fraud? Mr. Mesenbourg. From, I am sorry, outright? Mr. Chaffetz. Just outright fraud. What protectors are in place to make sure that doesn't happen? Mr. Mesenbourg. We have a whole series of quality control operations that we have in place that check the operations. So, for example, when we start address canvas--well, I will give you a better example. Right now we are about 90 percent done with the large block enumeration, and after that--now we have started to send QC people, other enumerators out to check the quality of that work. Every operation that we do will have a QC operation attached to it, and that will be one check. Another check in terms of housing unit counts, in-person counts, will be our pop estimates programs that makes most of those. That is another quality check that we have. Mr. Chaffetz. So if you have an enumerator who fraudulently fills out data and then submits these facts, do you believe there is a check and a balance in place to deal with that? Mr. Mesenbourg. I do believe that we have a check in place that will identify that problem, yes. Mr. Chaffetz. What is to keep somebody who gets the form in the mail and then knowingly fills it out incorrectly, I mean grossly incorrectly? How do we deal with that? Mr. Mesenbourg. Well, there will be some additional checks against some administrative records, information that we have access to. But that is going to be very, very difficult to catch every one of those, if a person added an extra individual in the process. But we will do some re-interviewing there, so if it is systematic on the part of an enumerator, then we would catch it. Mr. Chaffetz. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Clay. Thank you, Mr. Chaffetz. Mr. Mesenbourg, let's go back to the operational control system. The OCS is the brains of the whole system of the field operations. When will end-to-end testing for the OCS be in place? Mr. Mesenbourg. The first testing will be done April 20th through May 1st. So what we have done because of the timing pressures that we are under, we are going to address key operations on an incremental process. So the actual final testing will not be done on all of those interfaces until next March. Mr. Clay. Mr. Powner or Mr. Goldenkoff, is that adequate, as far as the response to ensure success? Mr. Powner. I think the key is it is a tough challenge for them because not everything is in place. So part of what they are dealing with is you want to test what you have now, but I think it is very important, as was stated, that you come back and retest. The key here, though, is there is a lot of these examples in place. We have six major systems, we heard 244 interfaces, 44 operations. OK, so when you start looking at all that, getting it all done and testing it in an integrated fashion, end-to-end, as you are asking, Mr. Chairman, see, we don't see all the prioritization and the plans in place. So, going forward, what is very important is that we see the appropriate plans. But then we have key metrics so we know exactly what is done, how well it is done, and then what remains ahead to complete. And the OCS is just one example of many challenges that they face going forward between now and census day. Mr. Clay. OK, Mr. Goldenkoff, the Bureau has many challenges facing its final preparation and conduct of the 2010 decennial census. What do you think places the 2010 census at greater risk and what can be done about it? Mr. Goldenkoff. I think there are really two great risks: one, time is running out and, two, the lack of testing of key operations. So as was already stated here today, the Bureau needs to prioritize what it can do, what it can't do; figure out where, within all those different operations and activities that haven't been tested, where the Bureau is most vulnerable; and, second, make sure everything stays on track. A third area is perhaps more marketing and promotion, because the non-response or the response rate, rather, is key to success. Mr. Clay. You know, address canvassing is set to begin nationwide within a few weeks. The Bureau never was able to carry out an end-to-end test of the new handheld devices with all the procedures in the field. How prepared is the Bureau to conduct address canvassing and how can the Bureau be confident that everything will work as the Bureau hopes without having tested it all? Mr. Goldenkoff. Well, I think that--you know, the Bureau does not know what it doesn't know because, again, the lack of testing. They had the operational field test in Fayetteville, NC, and what that demonstrated was that, under the conditions in Fayetteville, NC, the handhelds functioned well. The problems that we had seen in earlier tests did not reemerge. The problem is that, obviously, the country does not all look like Fayetteville, NC; you have urban areas, you have more rural areas. So the question is how will those handhelds perform, for example, in an area with lots of skyscrapers? Will they be able to lock on to a satellite signal? Will they be able to transmit data? And that is what nobody really knows. It is a big question mark. Mr. Clay. Should we be worried about the census being conducted on time? Mr. Goldenkoff. I think that, come April 1st, forms will go out; by law, they need to. The question is really accuracy and quality of the census. Accuracy and cost, rather. That is really what it comes down to. Key operations they will get done, they need to get done. It is just a question of how much will things cost and how good will the results be. At the end of the day, the data need to be delivered to the President come December 31, 2010. So whether they need to compress operations or speed things up at some point, they are under the gun. So things will happen on time, it is just a question of cost and accuracy. Mr. Clay. Sure. Thank you. Mr. Powner, when the Census Bureau provided comments on GAO's report, it stated that it was putting much more focus on testing new things for 2010 and not testing things that have worked before. What is GAO's assessment of the Bureau's comment? Mr. Powner. We would not agree with that. Clearly, it is important to test new things, but if you have old things that are critical and you change software and hardware associated with that, that needs to be tested; and that was really the focus of our report. It is really based on a prioritization. So the prioritization might be new things, but it could very well be older things also. Mr. Clay. Thank you for that response. Now I will recognize the gentleman from Georgia, Mr. Westmoreland, for 5 minutes. Mr. Westmoreland. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just following up on some of the comments that the gentleman from Utah had. Mr. Mesenbourg, what quality controls are you going to have on these enumerators? The gentleman from Utah questioned about them filling out the forms wrong, but what kind of quality controls do you have on these enumerators? Mr. Mesenbourg. OK, every major operation we have a QC activity related to that, so we will actually go, take a sample of the enumerations, and we will have a different person go back and attempt to collect that same data; and that provides us a clear signal in terms of the quality. If there are issues related to a specific interview, we call that operation a re- interview operation to identify problems. If we identify a problem, then we will zero in on that enumerator and then do 100 percent check of all of their work. But every operation we do we are going to have a QC step built into it to check the quality of it. Mr. Westmoreland. OK. And let's say that you do correctly identify an enumerator. What kind of corrective actions could be taken? Mr. Mesenbourg. They could be terminated, and certainly they would be out of the enumeratoring business as soon as we identified that. Mr. Westmoreland. OK. I know that the Bureau, as you have mentioned, will automatically mail a second census form to these traditionally, I guess, hard to count areas or the no response. That is correct, right, you will do a second mailing? Mr. Mesenbourg. Second mailing, a blanket second mailing to areas that have a traditional very low mail response. We will do a blanket mailing and then we will have another group that sort of intermediary, possibly, under 50 percent. Then we will mail the non-respondents, the household that hadn't returned a form will get a form there. Mr. Westmoreland. OK. So you feel comfortable that you are going to hit these under-response areas very well with a second mailing. Mr. Mesenbourg. We have tested the second mailing during the decade. We used it during the dress rehearsal. We are confident that it will be beneficial. Mr. Westmoreland. So you believe the second mailing is going to enhance your response. Mr. Mesenbourg. Yes. Mr. Westmoreland. How will you ensure that the data capture isn't wrongfully counted twice for those returned forms from both mailings? What is your system in place there to check that? Mr. Mesenbourg. OK, in terms of data capture, forms will be returned and go through one of our automated three data capture systems, actually do OCR on the forms. Then we will do a matching operation; every form will have a unique 22 digit identifier on that. If we can't match, that generates a whole host of additional investigative work. Mr. Westmoreland. OK, so---- Mr. Mesenbourg. So we have an automated process to make sure that we are not getting duplicate returns in. Mr. Westmoreland. Thank you. Mr. Goldenkoff, do you believe, because of all the stuff that we have been hearing in the news about we need a director, we don't have a director, whatever, you and Mr. Powner, do you believe that the Bureau has the right talent in-house to oversee this 2010 census? Mr. Goldenkoff. The Bureau employees are extremely dedicated, extremely competent, and they have lots of experience. The concern is that here it is getting, with 10 yards to go until the goal line, census day, there is no permanent quarterback in place. And the other issue to consider, as well, not only who is calling the shots, who is being held accountable by Congress to the American taxpayers. This is also the time when the Bureau starts planning for the next census, the 2020 census. So you need somebody in place who will take on, who will be responsible and held accountable for that as well, and making those sorts of decisions. So clearly the competency is there, there is no question about that; we have seen it in past decennials. But we need someone who is a strategic leader and someone who goes through the conventional selection process. Mr. Westmoreland. OK. Given that this short form--and it is only a short form for the census--do you think that better equips the Bureau to conduct this census than in previous---- Mr. Goldenkoff. Most definitely. It should improve the response late because it is less burdensome than having a short form and a long form. I mean, back in 2000, studies have shown that the response rate to the short form was higher than to the long form. So you would be more willing to spend 10 minutes than 40 minutes on the long form. Mr. Westmoreland. Right. It makes it a little easier for them to fill it out. Mr. Goldenkoff. That is correct. Mr. Westmoreland. And probably not as deep questions or personal questions as it was. Is my time up, Mr. Chairman? Mr. Clay. Yes, sir. Thank you, Mr. Westmoreland. I recognize the gentleman from Utah for 5 minutes. Mr. Chaffetz. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Powner, do you believe that there is enough talent to oversee and conduct the 2020 census? Mr. Powner. From a technology point of view, for 2020, the Census Bureau needs more IT talent on board, clearly. If you look at what happened last summer with the FDCA problems, fortunately, we have organizations like MITRE. They hired some external folks to come in and help at executive levels. There are folks that are trying to do a good job there right now, but going forward we need more IT talent internal to the Bureau. Mr. Chaffetz. Like previous decennials, the Bureau is using paper and pencil for nonresponse followup. But unlike previous years, we have better maps for enumerators, a targeted second mailing of the census form to the hard-to-count areas, and likely a better applicant pool from which to hire these enumerators. Shouldn't all these factors lead to a more accurate census? Mr. Goldenkoff. Yes, they should lead to a more accurate census. You can handle the nonresponse followup workload faster, which is important because it reduces recall error. So all those things you mentioned should lead to that direction. Mr. Chaffetz. And if you could summarize for me again real quickly the major hurdles you see and if any of these hurdles, you know, what the consequences would be if we are unable to overcome those hurdles. Mr. Goldenkoff. Well, first, time is running out. There is just no time for missteps. There is no slack in the schedule. So to the extent that challenges or glitches emerge--and those things are inevitable--something comes up in testing, there is not a whole lot of time left to figure what the workaround is. Second, the population is complex, demographically complex. So as I said in my statement, a key challenge is converting that awareness of the census into an actual response. The Bureau has been very good in terms of getting the word out. Ninety percent of the population or so is typically aware of the census, but the actual response rate is much lower. So that would be another hurdle. Mr. Chaffetz. Would you concur or disagree that the census is rooted in Article 1 if the Constitution, which enumerates the powers of the legislative branch? Mr. Goldenkoff. I will pass on that one. Mr. Chaffetz. I guess the question is who do you believe the census director reports to? Mr. Goldenkoff. Well, legally, to the Commerce Secretary. That, I believe, is in statute. Mr. Chaffetz. And is it your experience from past decennials that the director often briefed the President, but never ``reported to him?'' Mr. Goldenkoff. Well, from what we have seen in news accounts and also from some experience during the Bush administration, there was some contact between the census director and the White House, OMB, and that is not necessarily a bad thing. Mr. Chaffetz. But communication is a little different than actually reporting to. Mr. Goldenkoff. Right, they are two different things. It is one thing for the White House to be aware of and make sure that the census stays on track, but that is not a reporting relationship. But in terms of holding the Bureau accountable, it is a very powerful tool to have White House involvement. The thing is that the White House, it has to be that right balance between focusing on management and operational issues versus the science of the census. You don't want the White House or any political influence on the science of taking the census. Mr. Chaffetz. Very good. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Clay. Thank you, Mr. Chaffetz. Just one question for Dr. Himes. You know, the Bureau is working with MITRE on mitigation plans. What are your greatest concerns about timetables in the plans? Mr. Himes. Sir, I think, again, our greatest concern would be those that GAO has put together, the time to test and verify where the systems are working, particularly from a system view. So we think that there are tools in place that gives Census better insights into the status of their systems than they have had in the past; and the people that are working on them have substantial experience, but it is still a fairly large burden considering the amount of time remaining to track that whole activity end-to-end. Mr. Clay. Thank you so much for that response, Dr. Himes. I will yield to Mr. Westmoreland. Mr. Westmoreland. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate that. I didn't have any other questions, but when Mr. Goldenkoff passed on the Article 1 if the Constitution question, I felt like we might want to discuss that a little bit further, that the GAO understands that we feel like the origin of the census is rooted---- Mr. Goldenkoff. Oh, no question, Article 1. I misunderstood the question. Mr. Westmoreland [continuing]. In Article 1 of the Constitution, which enumerates the power of the legislative branch. Mr. Goldenkoff. Yes. Mr. Westmoreland. So I just wanted to make sure that you understood that and you were just passing on the question maybe for---- Mr. Goldenkoff. No, I guess I misunderstood the question. I apologize. Mr. Westmoreland. OK. Mr. Goldenkoff. But, definitely, it is Article 1, Section 2, and that spells out the basic requirements of the census. Mr. Westmoreland. Mr. Chairman, I would like to just make a comment, if I could. We all understand how important this census is for redistricting, for the allocation of Federal money, and I am very pleased with the testimony that we have heard today, because I think that everybody on that panel wants to have an accurate count, an enumeration of everybody in this country, people who are here at the time of the census. So I think that is the reason that there has been so much about whether the White House wants to have it reported to or to the Commerce Secretary, there is or is not a director. I feel very confident from just the information I have heard from the Census Bureau and the Acting Director there, and from the GAO and the things that they have looked at, that this process is going forward about as well as it could, and that there has been a lot of hard work put into it. So I think that the reason there is so much going on right now is everybody wants to make sure that every person is counted. So I appreciate all of you coming. I want to thank the chairman for having this hearing, because I think he recognizes the importance to each and every one of us, and the fact that we get a very accurate count. So with that, Mr. Chairman, I yield back the balance of my time. Mr. Clay. Thank you, Mr. Westmoreland. In conclusion, let me thank the witnesses for their testimony today. Mr. McHenry. If I could ask just one. Mr. Clay. You have another question? Mr. McHenry. Yes, just one. Mr. Clay. OK, I will yield to Mr. McHenry. Mr. McHenry. Sorry, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to get this on the record. Mr. Mesenbourg, from the Census Bureau's perspective--and I am sure these are questions you would like to answer--any and all information attained from the census forms cannot be used for any other person, including tax or law enforcement purposes, is that correct? Mr. Mesenbourg. That is correct. Mr. McHenry. OK. Many of us have received feedback from our constituents regarding privacy concerns, obviously, very much in mind today, especially. But information given by people to the Census Bureau is confidential by law, is that correct? Mr. Mesenbourg. By law, by Title 13. Mr. McHenry. All right. And getting people to respond is one of the main challenges, as you mentioned, so is there-- because people maybe have a mistrust of Government, what efforts are you taking to ensure that people know that any information given to them is kept only within the Census Bureau and not shared with any other Government agency, department, or any other individual? Mr. Mesenbourg. Well, that information will be on the report form that everybody receives but, probably more importantly, it is going to be a key focus of our advertising message and our partnership program. So it is one thing for the Census Bureau to tell people it is confidential. In the hard- to-reach segments of the population, our partnership program is aimed to get a trusted voice in that community to tell people that live in that community--and our partnership specialist will be hired from the community that they are working in--that you can trust the Census Bureau that they will hold your data confidential. Mr. McHenry. Finally, if you and your staff could prepare a followup for this. This is too long of a question and our time is short. I would like to know the Census Bureau's full plan to minimize the undercounts and overcounts. I know you already have plans in place, but if we could receive that, I think that would be important for committee members to hear the full breadth and depth of our plan so we can also see ways that we can engage other stakeholders. Mr. Mesenbourg. Certainly. Mr. McHenry. Thank you, all. And thank you, Mr. Chairman. I certainly appreciate it. Mr. Clay. Very good. Thank you. The first major operation of the 2010 census, address canvassing begins on March 30th. There will not be any other opportunities to build a complete and accurate address list. Time is of the essence. It is critical that the Bureau work with GAO, MITRE, and use every resource available to get this right. Six major systems still need to be tested, the life- cycle cost estimate needs to be validated, and testing must be prioritized. Let me thank all of the witnesses for coming today and thank the members of this committee for their singular focus and their commitment to seeing that the 2010 census be successful. On that note, this hearing is adjourned. [Whereupon, at 11:40 a.m., the subcommittee was adjourned.] [The prepared statement of Hon. Diane E. 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