[Senate Hearing 111-611] [From the U.S. Government Publishing Office] S. Hrg. 111-611 THE WAR ON DRUGS MEETS THE WAR ON PAIN: NURSING HOME PATIENTS CAUGHT IN THE CROSSFIRE ======================================================================= LISTENING SESSION before the SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON AGING UNITED STATES SENATE ONE HUNDRED ELEVENTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION __________ WASHINGTON, DC __________ MARCH 24, 2010 __________ Serial No. 111-16 Printed for the use of the Special Committee on Aging Available via the World Wide Web: http://www.gpoaccess.gov/congress/ index.html U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 57-545 WASHINGTON : 2010 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office, http://bookstore.gpo.gov. For more information, contact the GPO Customer Contact Center, U.S. Government Printing Office. Phone 202�09512�091800, or 866�09512�091800 (toll-free). E-mail, [email protected]. SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON AGING HERB KOHL, Wisconsin, Chairman RON WYDEN, Oregon BOB CORKER, Tennessee BLANCHE L. LINCOLN, Arkansas RICHARD SHELBY, Alabama EVAN BAYH, Indiana SUSAN COLLINS, Maine BILL NELSON, Florida GEORGE LeMIEUX, FLORIDA ROBERT P. CASEY, Jr., Pennsylvania ORRIN HATCH, Utah CLAIRE McCASKILL, Missouri SAM BROWNBACK, Kansas SHELDON WHITEHOUSE, Rhode Island LINDSEY GRAHAM, South Carolina MARK UDALL, Colorado SAXBY CHAMBLISS, Georgia KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND, New York MICHAEL BENNET, Colorado ARLEN SPECTER, Pennsylvania AL FRANKEN, Minnesota Debra Whitman, Majority Staff Director Michael Bassett, Ranking Member Staff Director (ii) ? C O N T E N T S ---------- Page Opening Statement of Senator Herb Kohl........................... 1 Panel I Statement of Michael Schanke, Administrator, Oakridge Gardens Nursing Center, Menasha, WI; on behalf of American Health Care Association and National Center for Assisted Living............ 3 Statement of Robert Warnock, D.PH., Vice President of Pharmacy Services, Golden Living, Fort Smith, AZ........................ 15 Statement of Cheryl Phillips, M.D., President American Geriatrics Society, New York, NY.......................................... 26 Statement of Ross Brickley, RPH, President, Continuing Care RX, INC., Raleigh, NC; on behalf of American Society of Consultant Pharmacists and the Quality Care Coalition For Patients in Pain 35 Panel II Statement of Joseph Rannazzisi, Deputy Assistant Administrator, Office of Diversion Control, Drug Enforcement Administration, U.S. Department of Justice, Washington, DC..................... 64 Statement of Carmen Catizone, DPH, Executive Director, National Association of Boards of Pharmacy, Mount Prospect, IL.......... 74 APPENDIX Mr. Schanke's Responses to Senator Brownback's Questions......... 83 Mr. Warnock's Responses to Senator Brownback's Questions......... 83 Ms. Phillip's Responses to Senator Brownback's Questions......... 84 Mr. Brickley's Responses to Senator Brownback's Questions........ 84 Mr. Rannazzisi Responses to Senator Brownback's Questions........ 85 Mr. Catizone's Responses to Senator Brownback's Questions........ 87 Statement submitted from Fran Savard of AOPHA, Columbus, OH...... 88 Statement submitted by Ron Fisher, MD............................ 89 Statement submitted on behalf of the American Medical Directors Association (amda)............................................. 90 Statement submitted by the American Association of Homes and Services for the Aging (aahsa)................................. 104 Letters and information from the Members of Seniors Aid NH, Concord, NH.................................................... 118 Statement of the National Community Pharmacists Association...... 121 Statement submitted by Denise Barter, RPh, MBA, FASCP............ 125 Testimony from the Pharmacy Society of Wisconsin................. 127 Letter from Kristie Roller-Bauknecht, Director of Pharmacy Services, Sauk City, WI........................................ 131 (iii) THE WAR ON DRUGS MEETS THE WAR ON PAIN: NURSING HOME PATIENTS CAUGHT IN THE CROSSFIRE ---------- -- WEDNESDAY, MARCH 24, 2010 U.S. Senate, Special Committee on Aging, Washington, DC. The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 2:05 p.m. in room SD-106, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Herb Kohl (chairman of the committee) presiding. Present: Senator Kohl. OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR HERB KOHL, CHAIRMAN The Chairman. Thank you so much for being here today. This afternoon, we'll examine the dispensing of pain medication in nursing homes across our country, a very serious issue that impacts the daily well-being and comfort of millions of elderly Americans. It's safe to say that most laws are created to prevent suffering. In the case of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration's recent crackdown of nursing homes, it appears that the law exacerbates it. The hours it may take for a nursing home to fully comply with DEA regulations can feel like an eternity to an elderly nursing home resident who's waiting for relief from excruciating pain. Our hope for today's session is that we can find a better strategy that allows the DEA to do its job and enables infirmed nursing home residents to receive their medication in an expedient way. According to several of our panelists and other industry sources, nursing homes and long-term care facilities have found themselves either heightened--under heightened scrutiny from the DEA, a Federal agency with the vital job of regulating the use and sales of controlled substances. The DEA's initiatives often save lives and do make a positive impact. The problem is that, while the DEA claims that they are working to keep prescription drugs out of the wrong hands, in reality they are causing widespread confusion, with the result of interruption and delays in timely access to pain medication for vulnerable seniors. We've heard from many providers in my home State of Wisconsin who say that they are faced with the impossible choice of following the letter of the law and caring for sick residents in the best way they know how. While I support the DEA's national drug diversion strategy, which prevents prescribed medications from reaching those who would abuse them, it seems that their efforts are misplaced here, with sick seniors paying the price. Today, we'll hear about pain management for the elderly, the role of nurses in ordering and administering medication, and proposals for possible changes to the regulatory scheme that governs long-term care facilities and pharmacies. We'll hear from the DEA, in order to gain a better understanding of what their intentions are. I understand that unanimous consent was not given this morning for committees to hold regularly scheduled hearings and meetings today. We appreciate that some of you have come a long way at your own expense to have your voices heard on this important issue. For that reason, although our committee will not be holding a formal hearing this afternoon, this will be regarded as a listening session, so that we can get and understand your positions on this issue. We'll now turn to our first panel. Our first witness this afternoon will be Michael Schanke. Mr. Schanke is the Owner of Oakridge Gardens Nursing Home Center, and President of Gardenview and the Gardens of Fountain Way Assisted Living in Menasha, WI. Mr. Schanke is responsible for all aspects of daily operations at the Oakridge Gardens Nursing Home and these two assisted living facilities. He will be followed by Robert Warnock. He is Vice President of pharmacy services for Golden Living, a skilled nursing facility chain based in Fort Smith, AR. He's a certified geriatric pharmacist. Golden Living cares for more than 60,000 nursing home and assisted living facility residents every day across our country in 37 States. Our next witness will be Dr. Cheryl Phillips, who's President of the American Geriatrics Society. She's also a Geriatrician and Chief Medical Officer of On Look Medical Senior Services. As President of the American Geriatrics Society, she represents 6400 geriatric healthcare professionals committed to improving the health and well-being of older Americans. Finally, we'll be hearing from Ross Brickley. Mr. Brickley is a certified Geriatric Pharmacist and President of CCRX of North Carolina, Inc. He's a past President of the American Society of Consultant Pharmacists and currently serves as a member of ASCP's Board of Trustees and as the Treasurer of that society. We're so pleased that you all took the time to be with us today. We'll commence testimony with you, Mr. Schanke. STATEMENT OF MICHAEL SCHANKE, ADMINISTRATOR, OAKRIDGE GARDENS NURSING CENTER, MENASHA, WI; ON BEHALF OF AMERICAN HEALTH CARE ASSOCIATION AND NATIONAL CENTER FOR ASSISTED LIVING Mr. Schanke. Thank you, Chairman Kohl and members of the committee. My name is Michael Schanke. My father and I are proud of the three long-term care facilities that we own and operate in Wisconsin's Fox Valley. We have 180 full- and part-time staff, who care for more than 140 seniors. I appreciate the opportunity to be here today on behalf of so many of my fellow long-term care providers to share our collective concerns about this issue. Most importantly, I'm pleased to be here on behalf of my patients and others in facilities nationwide who are facing unacceptable delays in getting much needed pain medication. I witness firsthand the frustration, fear, and confusion of patients and family members forced to watch their loved ones suffer while my staffs struggle with their hands tied because of these DEA regulations. Usually, the medication they need to relieve a resident's pain sits within our reach inside of our contingency kit. Imagine what it's like to look into the eyes of a resident or that resident's family as the resident is in clear and sometimes intense pain, and having to tell those people that we can't give medication they've been taking all along, not because we don't have it, but because of a regulation. Or imagine telling a nursing staff made up of highly educated and trained medical professionals who are with patients around the clock, assessing their conditions in real time, that they are no longer allowed to do the job for which they have been trained. We've taken numerous steps to comply with the DEA's increased enforcement of the Controlled Substances Act, at times to the detriment of the quality of the life of the patients we serve. I would like to share with you one specific example of how the DEA rules have interfered with our ability to treat residents in pain. In mid-February, on a Thursday, we had an admission of an 88-year-old lady to our facility from the hospital, following a surgical repair of her L2 vertebrae. As with many of our newly admitted patients, one of our first goals was to manage her intense pain, so that she could begin her rehabilitation program, which would include both physical and occupational therapy. To treat her pain, the discharging physician ordered two things: a Fentanyl patch along with Percocet every 4 hours, as needed, for breakthrough pain. By Saturday, my nurses noted that she would probably run out of her initial order of Percocet by late Sunday afternoon. We immediately put a call out to her attending physician to inform him of the situation and to begin the process for securing more Percocet to treat her pain. Throughout the weekend, we followed up, on multiple occasions, with both the doctor and the pharmacy to inquire about the status of the Percocet prescription and to ensure that the written prescription had been received by our pharmacy. Because we were unable to receive this confirmation, by Sunday night we had run out of the initial Percocet prescription. In order to provide her with some relief from her intense pain, we used contingency medication that we had in our facility. By Monday morning, the patient's pain level had reached a 9 or 10 on a 10-0 scale. Her family arrived, witnessed that their loved one was in such intense pain. They began to question why we were not treating her, as they knew we had the orders. We explained to her family that, due to changes in our process resulting from the need to follow DEA requirements, we would be unable to medicate her with her Percocet. By this time, the patient's pain had become so intense and unmanageable that her family decided to have her transported back to the hospital emergency room, just before noon on Monday. The patient was readmitted to the hospital and treated with morphine and an epidural for pain control. She returned to our facilities 3 days later, after that second hospitalization. The example illustrates that the ordering process for Schedule 2 medications has become too focused on the paperwork, at the expense of patient care and comfort. Long-term care facilities work hard daily to meet stringent State and Federal regulations, which include adequate pain management for our patients. However, these rules pit providers' compliance with those rules against compliance with other regulations. The DEA rules also ignore practical realities. We are fortunate to be in a medium-size community where we have doctors, clinicians, hospital systems, and a family owned pharmacy 5 minutes away. Not everyone has this ideal situation. The DEA rules imply that physicians are available at beck and call, which is not always the case. Healthcare is practiced in a dynamic setting, and the DEA rules are frustratingly static. In short, the DEA rules concerning Schedule 2 drugs need to be updated to account for the realities of medical practice, nursing-home care, and the three-way system of communication that occurs in the real world across care settings. Thank you very much for your time and continued attention to this important issue. [The prepared statement of Mr. Schanke follows:] [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.001 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.002 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.003 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.004 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.005 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.006 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.007 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.008 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.009 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.010 The Chairman. Thank you very much, Mr. Schanke. Now, we turn to Mr. Warnock. STATEMENT OF ROBERT WARNOCK, D.PH., VICE PRESIDENT OF PHARMACY SERVICES, GOLDEN LIVING, FORT SMITH, AZ Mr. Warnock. Chairman Kohl, thank you for inviting me here today. My name is Robert Warnock. I speak on behalf of Golden Living, a leading healthcare services company that operates more than 300 skilled nursing facilities in 21 States. I am the company's Vice President of pharmacy services. In addition, I am a certified Geriatric Pharmacist and licensed Doctor of Pharmacy. I'd like to discuss how some Drug Enforcement Agency regulations are imposing barriers to the timely and medically appropriate dispensing of controlled medications in skilled nursing facilities. This is essentially a collision of good intentions. The DEA works to protect the public against the diversion of harmful drugs, but the Agency's regulations concerning the dispensing of Schedule 2 drugs can cause needless suffering for patients with legitimate medical needs for those medications. Additionally, some of these regulations are potentially placing skilled nursing facilities at risk of being noncompliant with CMS regulations governing the patient-care responsibilities of skilled nursing facilities. That said, Golden Living fully supports and commends the DEA for its role in protecting the public from drug diversion and illegal practices regarding the use of controlled substances. We wish to work cooperatively with the committee and the DEA, as well as Federal and State healthcare regulators, to improve the effectiveness of the regulatory system. However, existing DEA regulations are difficult to comply with in our skilled nursing facility environment, particularly in light of CMS regulations under which we already operate. CMS regulations cover the safe and effective handling of medications. Conflicting DEA and CMS regulations place skilled nursing facilities in a difficult position. On one hand, DEA regulations increase delays in the provision of needed medication. On the other hand, CMS regulations require that skilled nursing facilities provide immediate care of the patient's needs. Compliance with both sets of regulations is challenging and, at times, impossible. Current DEA regulations require long-term care pharmacies to comply with very specific processes to allow the ordering and dispensing of Schedule 2 controlled drugs, including the requirement of hardcopy prescriptions signed by a physician. Skilled nursing facilities do not have onsite 24-hour physician staffs. Each patient has an attending physician who is responsible for his or her medical orders. But, most of these physicians maintain their primary practice outside of the skilled nursing facility and conduct many of their activities offsite and electronically. Manual processes for ordering and approving Schedule 2 prescriptions may be acceptable during regular office hours, when physicians, nurses, and long-term care pharmacists are present in their regular practice setting. After hours, however, pharmacies may be closed, and physicians may not have access to fax machines, if they are reachable at all. During these times, the required process frequently results in lengthy delays. DEA requirements for skilled nursing facilities differ from those under which hospitals operate. DEA provisions help hospitals and hospital pharmacies meet the immediate needs of their acute care patients for Schedule 2 medications. In hospitals, a physician's order on a patient's chart serves as a legal order and prescription for the pharmacy to fill the controlled substance. Also, nurses in hospitals are allowed to serve as physicians' agents and can order the pharmacy to fill a prescription for the controlled substance. Similar provisions for skilled nursing facilities would enable us to better meet the needs of patients who become acutely ill in our facilities or who are in pain at the time of admission. In many cases, we would be able to help patients in severe discomfort faster than we can under current regulations. We would also ask that DEA follow more of an administrative approach to their work with skilled nursing facilities. In 2009, Golden Living experienced an unannounced inspection of five of our skilled nursing facilities by DEA agents. To our knowledge, these inspections were unusual and unprecedented. The aggressive law enforcement approach used by the DEA agents during these visits, including the use of armed escorts, had a chilling impact on facility operations. It disrupted the staff and their important caregiving responsibilities, and it frightened our patients and our employees. In cases where there is not an immediate concern or issue, we would suggest that such disruptions may be mitigated if skilled nursing facilities were given advance notice of future DEA visits of this nature. Thank you for your time today. [The prepared statement of Mr. Warnock follows:] [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.011 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.012 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.013 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.014 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.015 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.016 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.017 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.018 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.019 The Chairman. Thank you Mr. Warnock. Dr. Phillips. STATEMENT OF CHERYL PHILLIPS, M.D., PRESIDENT, AMERICAN GERIATRICS SOCIETY, NEW YORK, NY Dr. Phillips. Thank you, Chairman Kohl and thank you for taking on this really important issue. I will speak as a geriatrician and an advocate, as we all are, for the patients and individuals that we're concerned about throughout this. In addition to being President of the American Geriatrics Society--and very happy to represent that organization--I'm also the past President of the American Medical Director's Association, which is the organization for physicians in long- term care practice. My entire clinical practice, scanning some 20 years, has been in the long-term care arena. This is a very real, palpable issue; it's not just a theoretical problem. It actually has been, in a variety of States, going on for many years, escalating, most recently, with some of the enforcement activities. So, I'll start--we've had issues with stories. I, too, will tell the story of Mrs. M, who's demented and 87 and is admitted back to the emergency room on a Friday night, after 4 days in the nursing home. She goes back to the same hospital she came from, because after her hip surgery, her orthopaedic surgeon felt like she needed to have less confusing pain meds and reduced her narcotics. Every day in the nursing home, her pain was slightly increasing until the day of transfer, when the nurse doing an assessment, working with the physician, communicating with the family, realized that we were not able to manage, in a timely manner; and the family, in frustration, as was mentioned in an earlier example, said, ``Enough, already,'' and sent her back to the hospital. I was part of a CMS panel that looked at rehospitalizations. One in four Medicare patients who go to the hospital and go to a nursing home are readmitted within 30 days. A big part of this is, in fact, pain management. This represents $4.3 billion a year, at about $10,000 per admission. Not only is it unnecessary cost, it's unconscionable that Mrs. M needs to go back to the emergency room to have what can be provided in a licensed facility with nurses, therapists, physicians, and pharmacists ready to take care of her. So, what can a physician do if we can't get the narcotic? Well, we can use a non-narcotic option; that's not great. The pharmacy and the nurse can go outside of DEA regulations, give the medicine anyway, face significant sanctions and fine. Or what often happens is, a patient goes without. They're the ones paying the price and suffering. It is not insignificant, untreated pain in the elderly. We have a lot of myths about pain management in the elderly. When we don't address pain, seniors tend to not eat, they tend to not move, they are less mobile, they're more likely to get pneumonia, they're more likely to fall because of the muscle weakness related to the immobility. They are certainly more likely to have pressure ulcers. It often starts that spiral of decline and death. Pain management in the elderly is a critical and important medical and social and moral issue. So, why is it that we have such a problem? As was mentioned earlier, in the hospital I can get called by a nurse who gives me an informed, professional assessment. I can have an interaction in a care plan decision, give an order, and it is executed in the hospital. That same nurse can go across the street to the nursing home, use her same assessment skills, can have the same dialog with me about a patient that I may have seen in the hospital a day earlier, but now I can't give her that order for narcotic management or other medicines that follow under the schedule purview. Instead, I must call a pharmacy. Often it's a 1-800 number for a regional pharmacist, sometimes States away. I will tell, from personal experience, that very often, after hours, that meant I wait for the pharmacist to call me back. I then have to find a fax after hours; I'm not one that carries one in my car. So, after hours or weekends, I need to fax, then, an original signature. Now, I call back the nursing home nurse, who then calls the pharmacist to verify the order. Each one of these steps takes time. Each one of these steps creates the opportunity for significant error. Each one of these means that Mrs. M is sitting in pain. That's if things work well. That's when the stars are aligned. More often than not, they aren't. Most physicians do not have faxes at home or in their cars. So, after hours, even though we do have 24-7 availability, we don't have the access to make this electronic communication with the pharmacies. Forty percent of physicians now who practice in nursing home settings don't have typical office practices. So, we are not talking about the same dynamic of a physician sitting in a room with a complete support staff. So, we do recognize that this is a team relationship. This is not delegating work away from the physician to the nurse or the nursing home. This is a collaboration, both of us working in the scope of our licenses, with the most important goal of serving the individual. We recognize the importance of the DEA's oversight, but I would offer that Mrs. M's pain is not a law enforcement issue. This really is an issue of allowing the nurse to serve as the agent of the physician in this setting of care. We know that diversions occur. They occur everywhere. They are no more likely to be in nursing homes than elsewhere. There are checks and balances in place that others can speak of. I commend the effort of this. I wholeheartedly appreciate this work. We look forward to working with the DEA. We would like to find a regulatory solution to this. If not, I urge that we move toward a legislative solution to allow the nurse to be the managing agent. Thank you very much. [The prepared statement of Dr. Phillips follows:] [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.020 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.021 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.022 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.023 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.024 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.025 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.026 The Chairman. Thank you very much, Dr. Phillips. Now we speak--we turn to Mr. Brickley. STATEMENT OF ROSS BRICKLEY, RPH, PRESIDENT, CONTINUING CARE RX, INC., RALEIGH, NC; ON BEHALF OF AMERICAN SOCIETY OF CONSULTANT PHARMACISTS AND THE QUALITY CARE COALITION FOR PATIENTS IN PAIN Mr. Brickley. Thank you, Chairman Kohl. My name is Ross Brickley. I'm a certified Geriatric Pharmacist in practice in North Carolina. I'm here on behalf of the American Society of Consultant Pharmacists and The Quality Care Coalition for Patients in Pain, a multistakeholder coalition of physicians, nurses, and pharmacists. Today, we have filed extensive written comments that describe in detail the issues and the background that brings us to this hearing. In the short time I have to present my testimony, I want to focus on the following: First, today across the country, long-term care patients are not receiving their controlled medications in a timely basis. Nearly 900 clinicians responded to a survey that the QCCPP sent out last fall, that we are releasing later today. Two-thirds of the respondents said that the DEA rules were impeding patients' access to controlled medications. This number jumped to 86 percent in Ohio, where DEA enforcement activity is the highest. Second, in addition to delays in treatment, the survey showed the difficulty in accessing controlled medications is changing prescribing practices. Just as Dr. Phillips mentioned, physicians are now writing for noncontrolled medications that are less effective and may create other problems for our frail elderly. Third, some nursing facility patients are being sent back to the hospital, just as our other panelists have indicated, because they could not get prompt medication treatment in the nursing home. One example that I had on Monday of this week--and I have all the latest technology in my nursing facilities that I serve--but, a patient was admitted late in the evening, around 6 p.m. He was an end-stage HIV patient on routine narcotic medication; high dose every 6 hours. So, he was admitted with chart orders from the hospital. Those were electronically submitted into my health record. I, electronically, had everything I needed. Unfortunately, I could not legally dispense that medication, because it did not have a quantity or a physician signature on that electronic document. Subsequently, we worked with the prescribers and such, and eventually, over an 18-hour period later, we finally got the signed prescription so we could legally dispense them and submit them out. I had an automated dispensing device there, one of the most highly technologically advanced devices possible. I could not release that medication, available in the nursing home, until I had that signed prescription in my pharmacy, available to administer. Those kind of DEA limitations, with the compliance and the paperwork, just as our other panelists have indicated, create challenges and barriers to patient care. Simply stated, the DEA rules were written nearly 40 years ago for outpatient treatment where a physician at a local, office would see a patient. If a controlled-substance medication was indicated, the physician would write that prescription, hand it to the patient. The patient would fill it at a local pharmacy. This is a very different setting than what we have in the nursing home environment today. Chairman Kohl, these issues being discussed today are not new. For decades, the DEA and ASCP have met to discuss these issues, and the DEA has been fully aware of these systems. As early as 1974, the DEA's chief compliance officer, Kenneth Duran, in a letter to ASCP, wrote, ``I've long felt that the existing regulations do not adequately speak to the nursing home situation, and members of my staff are presently reviewing applicable regulations to see if we can arrive at a practical solution which does not sacrifice necessary control.'' More than two decades later, in March 1996, DEA's Thomas Gitchel wrote, ``We realize that there's still some longstanding issues of concern, and it's clear that the drafters of the Controlled Substance Act did not envision the evolution of the practice of pharmacy and medical care to what it has become today.'' ASCP and I, personally, have continued to meet with the DEA for the past 10 years. We have no explanation for--after all these years--the DEA has decided to aggressively enforce these outpatient rules. In response to this, long-term care pharmacies have been forced to take drastic action. These are huge patient-care challenges. The rules that the DEA ask us to follow are simply incompatible and must be changed. In the interim, we need immediate relief, and ask for the following: First, the DEA must update its rules and policies for prescribing and dispensing controlled medications to reflect the practice realities of nursing home and hospice patients in long-term care facilities. We welcome the opportunity to work with the DEA to help them develop these rules. Second, to alleviate patient suffering, the DEA has the authority now, under the regulation, to clarify that a long- term care facility nurse is the agent of the prescriber, and may communicate orders to the pharmacy. Third, if the DEA does not act, we'll call upon Congress to enact legislation that would require the DEA to recognize the long-term care facility nurse as an agent of the prescriber and recognize chart orders as legal prescription orders for controlled substances. Thank you, Chairman Kohl. 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You've all been fairly clear and consistent in your expressions of the problem, as you see it. Hospital nurses may accept verbal orders from physicians for administration of controlled substances, but nursing home nurses may not, according to the DEA. Do you believe the DEA is making a reasonable distinction between these care settings? If you don't believe so, explain, maybe again, why not. Would you like to try, Mr. Schanke, and then we'll move on? Mr. Schanke. In terms of the distinction, I don't see one. We have RNs with the same education and background and, many times, the same experience, whether in a hospital or in a nursing home. In the nursing home, my RNs are able to accept verbal orders for execution of treatment on any number of items. Why we're segregating, now, this scheduled medication specifically, it doesn't make sense to me, from a purely process standpoint. The Chairman. Yes. Now, some of you may know precisely how this thing is working out across the country. This has not always been the case. This is, what, a new DEA activity, is that right, Dr. Phillips? Dr. Phillips. Actually, I would offer--this has been an intermittent activity. Back--I remember having 2-o'clock-in- the-morning struggles with dispensing pharmacies, back 2001, 2002, in Northern California. It was typically pharmacies who either had had pushback from the DEA or who were particularly focused on this interpretation. So, prior to, I would say, in the last year or two, it has been spotty enforcement and spotty action, and you might have one pharmacy in one county not paying attention to this DEA interpretation, where another county and different pharmacy would, which also made it very chaotic for physicians and other practitioners in the long-term care environment. So, it's been a very real issue. It's not just a brand new issue. It has certainly escalated in the past year or two. The Chairman. OK. Mr. Warnock, would you make some comments? Mr. Warnock. Thank you, Senator. Agree with what my colleagues have said. The increased enforcement clearly has taken place recently. That is when we started having this extra attention paid. That's when we started having issues really come to the forefront in patient care. The other piece that I would make the argument is when these regulations were written, we never imagined--and I've been in long-term care for 30 years--we never imagined having the kinds of residents and patients that we now accept into a skilled nursing facility. These literally are an arm of the hospital. So, these rules clearly were designed to take care of custodial-care patients who didn't have immediate, emergent needs, and that's not the kind of residents we have any more. The Chairman. In trying to understand why they are moving so clearly in the direction in which they are moving, can any of you offer their justification for it? We'll be hearing from the DEA on the next panel, but, you know, you always try and look at it from the other person's point of view and understand what they're doing and why they're doing it. Mr. Brickley, you have some thoughts on that? Mr. Brickley. Yes. Putting the shoe on the other foot, Senator, you know, the Controlled Substance Act of 1970 is what it is. It was written then. It was written for a different patient-care population. As I noted in my reference, even in 1973 and 1974, the DEA recognized that there were components of the Controlled Substance Act that did not apply, did not fit with our setting. So, I can't contest of the DEA following the letter of the law. The Chairman. Dr. Phillips? Dr. Phillips. Yes, if I may. I believe there's also some myths and misunderstandings of how clinical practice occurs in nursing home settings. It is not, as been mentioned, but may be seen by the DEA as, an outpatient kind of setting with absent doctors and nurses sort of running the show. That, in fact, is not the reality. Physicians are responsible for patients, 24/7. We work in a collaborative team-based environment with nurses, therapists, pharmacists, the entire spectrum of the license panel. So, decisions are still made in orders by physicians who are overseeing the care through the agent, in other contexts of care of the nurse in the nursing home. So, I think part of the challenge is getting the understanding, this is an environment of team-based integrated care for very frail, vulnerable individuals with considerable oversights at every step of the way, in both prescribing, dispensing, and administering and counting for all of the narcotics and other medications present. The Chairman. Now, is it fair to say that all of you would like to have the same method of prescribing pain medication in nursing home facilities as we have in the hospitals? Is that right? Is that what you're advocating? Mr. Schanke. Yes. The Chairman. Mr. Schanke? Mr. Schanke. Absolutely. The Chairman. That's what you're advocating. Mr. Warnock? Mr. Warnock. Yes, sir. The Chairman. Dr. Phillips? Dr. Phillips. Yes, sir. The Chairman. Mr. Brickley? Mr. Brickley. Yes, Chairman. The Chairman. Any of you see any cautionary reasons why that shouldn't be done? Do you have any imagined problems that might occur if we were using the same procedure? Mr. Schanke. Well, I'll jump in. We've been doing it for a while, and we've got established procedures, in terms of tracking scheduled meds, in particular, from shift to shift, new orders, expired orders. We take managing the scheduled medications extremely seriously, just for many of the reasons the DEA wants us to, and we should be. We're concerned about making sure we don't have diversion issues and that the meds are used properly for our patients. So, extending the nurse as agent of physician to us is not going to change any of the sort of foundational things we already do to make sure we handle them safely, securely, and they're administered properly. The Chairman. What are your legal liabilities here? I mean--any of you--what happens if, in fact, in your facility, if we were doing it as hospitals do it, and somebody badly overprescribes? Are you--is there a legal--Dr. Phillips is there a legal liability here? Dr. Phillips. Well, there are both licensure and law enforcement oversight and oversight of the DEA. So, if I am a negligent practitioner-prescriber, I'm accountable, whether it's in the community, the nursing home, or the hospital. That doesn't change by the setting; I still am obligated under my license and my oversight in my practice. So, I think that that piece is not a good argument, that this one setting of care--I applaud the DEA's desire to address diversion and all issues of diversion which occur in the hospital, the office, the community and nursing home--need to be dealt with. But, it is not singularly the nursing home where the risk lies. Yet, we are creating the burden of this on the backs and the broken legs of our patients. That's the real tragedy, and I think it's the unintended consequence. The Chairman. Yes. Any comments from this panel on anything, whatever? Mr. Warnock or Mr. Brickley? You've been really good and complete in describing the problem, and I think we all appreciate that very much. Mr. Warnock. Thank you, Senator. The only thing I would like to express, and I think it's been expressed very well here today, but I don't want to leave without saying. It is very important that we solve this problem. These people deserve better than what we're giving them today, and we need to provide better for them. The Chairman. Well, that's very good. We're going to have the representative from the DEA here on the next panel. If--probably redundant, but if you--if you wanted me to ask him a--just in the interest of trying to get to a resolution--one question, what would you suggest, Dr. Phillips? Dr. Phillips. I guess I would ask, Why the nursing home? What is it about this setting that makes it, in particular, a focus for the DEA's interpretation, when licensed nurses are practicing under the same scope of practice, the nurses are-- the physicians are interacting under their same scope of practice, under the same State and Federal regulations, why this setting of care is being identified and targeted? The Chairman. Why is this any different from a hospital setting? Dr. Phillips. Exactly. The Chairman. Is that right? Mr. Schanke. Yes. The Chairman. Would that be your question? Mr. Schanke. Yes. The Chairman. I am your faithful servant. Dr. Phillips. Very good. The Chairman. Thanks a lot, folks, you've been good. Dr. Phillips. Thank you. Mr. Schanke. Thank you. The Chairman. So, we come to our next panel here today. We welcome our two witnesses. Our first witness on this panel will be Joseph Rannazzisi. Mr. Rannazzisi is the Deputy Assistant Administrator in the Office of Diversion Control at the Drug Enforcement Administration, located in the U.S. Department of Justice. As Deputy Assistant Administrator, he is responsible for overseeing and coordinating major pharmaceutical and synthetic drug investigations, drafting and enforcing regulations, as well as establishing drug production quotas. We welcome you here today. Next, we'll be hearing from Carmen Catizone. Mr. Catizone is the Executive Director of the National Association of Boards of Pharmacy, and the Secretary of the Association's executive committee. The National Association of Boards of Pharmacy is the international association that assists members in developing and implementing standards for public health. We welcome you both here. Mr. Rannazzisi, we'll start with you. STATEMENT OF JOSEPH RANNAZZISI, DEPUTY ASSISTANT ADMINISTRATOR, OFFICE OF DIVERSION CONTROL, DRUG ENFORCEMENT ADMINISTRATION, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, WASHINGTON, DC Mr. Rannazzisi. Good afternoon, Chairman Kohl. On behalf of Acting Administrator Michele Leonhart and the men and women of the Drug Enforcement Administration, thank you for holding this hearing on this important issue regarding the issue of prescribing controlled substances to patients in long- term care facilities. DEA is charged with enforcing the Controlled Substances Act and its implementing regulations, which were designed, first and foremost, to protect the public health and safety. DEA accomplishes this mission, in part, through administrative and regulatory oversight of more than 1.3 million individuals and businesses registered to handle controlled substances. The registrant population consists of manufacturers, importers, wholesalers, distributors, pharmacies, and practitioners. With very few exceptions, however, DEA does not regulate long-term care facilities. This is due, in part, to the fact that these facilities typically do not have State controlled- substance registrations or hold DEA registrations. Controlled substances are powerful and potentially dangerous drugs when used improperly and without the proper practitioner oversight. That said, the CSA has, in its very core, the unique ability to provide a protective umbrella throughout the controlled-substance distribution chain. By design, the CSA provides built-in checks and balances to ensure that controlled substances are dispensed for legitimate need, while protecting the public health and safety from diversion. The CSA, in implementing regulations, therefore established specific limitations on who is authorized to prescribe, and under what conditions. The regulations set forth very precise elements that must be included in a prescription to reduce errors and solidify the authenticity of the prescription. For example, a practitioner--a term clearly defined in the Controlled Substances Act--is the only person who can prescribe a controlled substance. Furthermore, the practitioner must be licensed by the State in which he or she practices and must be registered by the Drug Enforcement Administration. Once these conditions have been met, a practitioner can only prescribe a controlled substance after a determination has been made that the drug is needed for legitimate medical purpose and is prescribed in the usual course of professional practice. Though the responsibility for proper prescribing and dispensing of a controlled substance rests with the practitioner, it's the pharmacist who's the final gatekeeper. Under the Controlled Substances Act, a corresponding liability rests with the pharmacist to ensure that every prescription they fill is valid. They are the last line of defense before a controlled substance leaves the closed system of distribution. DEA understands that the laws and regulations may need to adapt whenever possible, to keep pace with advancements in technology, science, or medicine. DEA regularly works with, and solicits input from, the medical and scientific community. We also seek input from the general public through the notice and comment portion of the regulatory process. Over the years, DEA has promulgated several regulations to address the unique and specific needs of patients in long-term care facilities. For example, a pharmacist can typically only dispense a Schedule 2 controlled substance upon receipt of an original written prescription signed by a practitioner. However, if a patient is a resident of a long-term care facility, the practitioner can fax the written prescription to the pharmacy. As far back as 30 years ago, DEA recognized the need to address emergency situations in long-term care facilities by authorizing placement of emergency kits in those locations. These kits, however, are the responsibility and property of the DEA-registered pharmacy and not the facility. In 2005, DEA implemented regulations to allow retail pharmacies to install and operate automatic dispensing machines within long-term care facilities. These systems provide a means for patients to receive their medications in a more expedient manner. In 2007, DEA implemented a regulation which permits a practitioner to issue multiple prescriptions for Schedule 2 controlled substances. This option can provide patients with up to a 90-day supply of medicine. In the event of an emergency, DEA has authorized pharmacists to dispense Schedule 2 controlled substances upon receipt of a valid oral order from a prescribing practitioner. Finally, DEA has drafted an interim final rule that will allow for the electronic prescribing of controlled substances, and that rule should be posted today at the Office of the Federal Register and should be published within the next week or so. The current statutory and regulatory regime provides practitioners and pharmacists with a wide variety of mechanisms to deliver medications both safely and timely to patients in long-term care facilities. The Drug Enforcement Administration recognizes the importance of providing safe and effective medications to patients in need. As technologies evolve, or other circumstances dictate, DEA has and will continue to implement regulations whenever possible, to allow for proper prescribing and dispensing of controlled substances. Chairman Kohl, thank you again for your interest on this important matter and ensuring that patients who reside in these facilities receive appropriate standard of care that they deserve. The Department of Justice and the Drug Enforcement Administration are committed to working with Congress on this and other matters. Thank you for this opportunity to appear today, and I look forward to answering any questions you may have. [The prepared statement of Mr. Rannazzisi follows:] [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.051 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.052 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.053 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.054 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.055 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.056 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.057 The Chairman. Thank you very much. Mr. Catizone. STATEMENT OF CARMEN CATIZONE, DPH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BOARDS OF PHARMACY, MOUNT PROSPECT, IL Mr. Catizone. Thank you, Chairman Kohl. With me today is--also, is William Winsley, Executive Director of the Ohio Board of Pharmacy and President-Elect of NABP. Mr. Winsely is uniquely qualified to speak on the issues today, because of his extensive background in pharmacy practice and regulation. His was the first State to be challenged by these issues. NABP appears before you today as an objective third party, with our only interest being the patient and the integrity of the medication distribution and dispensing systems. As an association of State regulatory agencies, we are not involved in the economics of the profession of pharmacy, and therefore, are removed from any direct concern with the economic impact on long-term care and long-term care practitioners that compliance with Federal and State laws and regulations may have, unless patient care suffers as a result of burdensome regulation. Mr. Chairman, it's important to temper today's hearing with the realization that emotions are running high and some of the dire consequences predicted to occur will not occur and, in all likelihood, if they do occur, will not be to the extent that they have been predicted. Furthermore, the accusations which characterize this struggle have clouded the issue and have obstructed necessary avenues of communication. Some of the statements today also falsely accuse the DEA and law enforcement authorities of actions that are simply not true. We concur that patient care is affected, but we also acknowledge that diversion is a serious issue. To what extent each of these unfortunate outcomes is occurring, and the reasons for their occurrence, are at the heart of this hearing. As NABP approached this issue, we sought to ignore the inflammatory comments and tried, instead, to determine what the facts are and what possible solutions exist. In this regard, we posed two questions to those with whom we spoke. To the practitioners in the long-term care industry, we asked whether compliance with the statutes and regulations of the DEA, which are considered intractable, could occur, but has not occurred because of the cost and inconvenience to the industry. To the DEA and regulatory authorities, we asked whether the basis for declaring that industry standards were illegal was statutory and regulatory, or interpretation of statutes and regulations. To be perfectly honest, Mr. Chairman, NABP believes that the inflexible positions advanced are not entirely accurate or absolute. Furthermore, addressing the issues under consideration today in an isolated way, even if approached with the wisdom of Solomon, might prevent the child from being split, but ultimately would result in further complications and conflicts, because the issues encompass significant areas and interpretations of the Controlled Substances Act. To this end, the member States of NABP have called for us to invite the DEA and all stakeholders, those in long-term care and other practice settings, to work with us to review and pose revisions to the Controlled Substances Act. Those revisions would address the issues under consideration today, as well as other issues that need to be addressed because of significant changes in practice in patient care, technology, and regulation. To the immediate question under review by this committee and affecting patient care in long-term practices, NABP recommends the following course of action: that DEA establish a new registration category for long-term care facilities, as defined by the States, with similar privileges and responsibilities as now exist for hospitals. If this could be enacted, the dilemma surrounding chart orders and agent of the prescriber could move toward a resolution. Presently the NABP Model Act, and a report developed in collaboration with the American Society for Consultant Pharmacists, define long-term care facilities within the definitions of an institutional facility. That definition includes hospitals, and would place upon long-term care facilities the same legal and regulatory standing. It should be noted, however, that diversion, unacceptable standards of care for our elderly, and outdated regulations would not be resolved by this immediate action. For those broader and more encompassing issues, we again recommend a more comprehensive analysis and review of the Controlled Substances Act. NABP is hopeful that this committee will support our effort and, through whatever authority available to it, bring the parties to the table to engage in this much-needed and valuable effort on behalf of the patient and integrity of the medication distribution and dispensing systems. Thank you for the opportunity to comment today. Mr. Winsley and I would be glad to answer any questions you may have, Mr. Chairman. [The prepared statement of Mr. Catizone follows:] [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.058 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.059 [GRAPHIC] [TIFF OMITTED] T7545.060 The Chairman. Thank you very much, Mr. Catizone. Mr. Rannazzisi, you've heard Mr. Catizone testify that DEA might well, and should, allow--should create a new registration category for nursing homes that will allow them to operate more like hospitals do, with respect to ordering controlled substances. Do you have a sense that your agency is prepared to work with the pharmacy boards, other regulators, as well as the provider community on such a solution? Mr. Rannazzisi. Yes, sir. Let me explain our registration process a little. If a State decides to register, or give controlled substance authority to, a nursing home, depending on the extent of that controlled-substance authority, we would be obligated to register them. So, yes, we would register them. We'd work with them, and we have no problem registering them. However, our registration is based on the State-controlled substance authority that's granted to the prospective registrant. So, it would be up to the States to make that first step, to give them controlled-substance authority, and then we would create a new class of registrant to encompass the nursing homes. The Chairman. What kind of an impediment does that present, Mr. Catizone? Mr. Catizone. Mr. Chairman, if the providers support this initiative and work with their State board of pharmacy, we see no impediment on behalf of the boards of pharmacy. The impediment would come from the provider community that might oppose this. But, if the panelists today were honest and sincere in trying to treat the patient, then we would see it moving forward quite quickly. The Chairman. So, you see this as being quite doable. Mr. Catizone. Yes, sir. The Chairman. Do you, Mr. Rannazzisi? Mr. Rannazzisi. Absolutely. As long as the State controlled-substance authority is in place, yes, sir. It would just take us time to--not a lot of time, but time to create that new registrant category, but we'd be very expeditious in the creation of that. The Chairman. So, how do you imagine that we--if you have a set of--how do you imagine that we might move toward a resolution here that long-term care facilities find satisfactory, as well as yourself? What's the next step? Mr. Rannazzisi. If we're talking about the registration of the long-term care facilities, the next step would be the States to make the decision whether they're going to provide long-term care facilities with controlled--State controlled- substance registration. Once that is done, and they've been provided with that authority, we'll do the rest. The Chairman. That's a good answer. You heard the providers on the first panel discuss the practical dilemmas they face, trying to relieve pain and suffering among their residents. What efforts are you making to reach out to long-term care providers in order to help them do what is expected of them? Mr. Rannazzisi. As I said in the testimony, the long-term care providers are not our registrants. We don't have any regulatory control over them. We don't inspect them. Our registrants in this community would be either the practitioners that are prescribing or the pharmacy services corporations that are actually servicing the long-term care providers. Now, we do a number of different presentations. I think in 2009, we did over 25 presentations to all different groups in the medical community--the boards, American Medical Association, Mayo Clinic, National Community Pharmacists Association, the National Conference--we bring in medical and pharmacy board representatives, the American Society of International Interventional Pain Physicians, the list goes on and on--about 25 different presentations, and we talk about all aspects of the Controlled Substances Act, and we answer questions related to the Controlled Substances Act. In this situation, there are two registrants that relate directly to the long-term care facilities that are not registrants: the practitioners and the pharmacists, the pharmacists being the gatekeeper for the prescriptions, to determine whether they're valid or not. I think that the pharmacists have a very good background, with 40 years of the Controlled Substances Act, about determining what is a valid prescription. Inherent in the Act is a determination that a prescription is valid, on both the practitioner's side and the pharmacist's side. A prescription, to be valid, is issued for legitimate medical purpose in the usual course of professional practice; that's the standard that the doctors are held to. The pharmacists have a corresponding responsibility to ensure that that prescription is valid, and they're held to that same standard. The nurse is just a facilitator to make sure the medication is received and given to the patient. If the pharmacist and the practitioners understand the valid prescription requirement, there shouldn't be a problem with the nursing homes. The Chairman. Do you see it that way, Mr. Catizone? Mr. Catizone. Yes, Chairman Kohl. The Chairman. Well, I get the sense that we may be moving in the right direction here. Before we, perhaps, begin to wind up this hearing, I would to take the somewhat unusual step of asking the Doctor to come back and sit down for a minute. Tell us, Dr. Phillips, if you feel that we've made a lot of progress, some progress, no progress. What do you think? Dr. Phillips. I am delighted to hear--I am--I guess I'm a little bit taken back by the sense that somehow we have been inflammatory or exaggerative, because, in fact, these pain events were happening last year, they were happening yesterday, they're happening today, and there will be hundreds of them happening tomorrow, so it is a very real issue. I'll speak from personal experience, and maybe a little bit of ignorance. I had started this issue in California and tried to look at a State solution, back 5 years ago, and our State Board of Pharmacy said it was a DEA issue, and they had to go to defer to the DEA. Now, I'm hearing from the DEA that, in fact, it's a States issue. So, I guess a little bit of caution on my part is, Are we going to do one of these, ``It's my turn, no, it's my turn,'' before it actually gets resolved? Where the authority lies, I'm unclear. But, I am concerned that we'll do a little bit of push-pulling back and forth between the States and the DEA. The Chairman. Go ahead, if you can. Mr. Rannazzisi. Again, inherent in the registration process is a requirement that a controlled--the controlled-substance authority be granted by the State before DEA can issue a registration. Once that State decides how they're going to grant that controlled-substance authority and the exact authority that they'll be granted, we will proceed with the registration process. It depends on the State. The Chairman. Mr. Catizone. Mr. Catizone. Chairman Kohl, we will issue that explanation to the States, as well as our recommendation that they recognize this. Clearly, a letter from this committee or from you, sir, would help that process--that we could send to all the States, and work with the Congressmen and Senators in their States, as well, saying that this is an important initiative, we need to move quickly. That would move the issue very quickly. The Chairman. All right, well, I'll be happy to do it. Dr. Phillips, you've got a nice smile on your face. Dr. Phillips. Well, I think that's a wonderful next step, and I'm delighted and appreciate both the efforts of the DEA, the pharmacy, and also our panel of providers. With your input, this will actually start to move. Thank you. The Chairman. I think that's great. I'm moved to speculate and think that if we could have had you all working on healthcare, we would have done it in a month. It wouldn't have taken---- Dr. Phillips. You should have asked us, huh? [Laughter.] The Chairman. Without all the animosity. You've all done a great job. We thank you all for being here. I think that this has been a very, very good session that we've had this afternoon. Dr. Phillips. Thank you. The Chairman. Thank you so much. [Whereupon, at 3 p.m., the hearing was adjourned.] A P P E N D I X ---------- Mr. Schanke's Responses to Senator Brownback's Questions Question. It is acceptable for nurses in long-term care to take phone and ``chart orders'' for all other medications and treatments--antibiotics, anti-coagulants, insulin, etc. Some of these medications have life threatening implications if the order is incorrect and/or administered inappropriately. Given the dispensing controls that are in place for narcotics, can't we accomplish the same physician involvement by having them sign the ``chart order'' with the required information during their next visit without requiring the extra step of a retail prescription form? Answer. The current procedures for continuation of orders and implementation of new orders for existing patients and newly admitted patients are effective for all medications and treatments. There is no reason to believe that the same would be not be true should we have the ability to include narcotics and other ``schedule'' medications in those procedures. The information required for a narcotic order will still be obtained concurrently with the immediate implementation of the physicians order for the pain medication. If we had the ability to use the ``chart order'' or a phone order there would be much less potential for a delay in the administration of the pain medication. Delays continue to occur while we wait for DEA required paperwork/verbal communication to find its way from physician, direct to pharmacist, back to nursing staff before we can give the needed pain medications. Question. Do you think it is time to change the CSA act to reflect the practice of Long Term Care, similar to what occurs in hospitals? The hospital nurse is employed by the hospital, yet can take orders for narcotics over the phone without the need for a written or verbal prescription to the pharmacist. Answer. I do think it is time for the CSA act to reflect the practice of Long Term Care. Nursing staff in Long Term Care facilities must communicate with the physician and receive that physician's instructions for any and all treatments and medications, whether new or existing. There is no practical difference in starting/continuing an order for insulin or starting/continuing an order for a pain medication. Insulin can be ordered by a physician over the phone to my nursing staff and followed up with a signature. A simple pain medication cannot be ordered over the phone, but must have specific paper work completed before we can consider giving it. The DEA's enforcement of outdated rules does not prevent diversion. We do not have a diversion problem in the Fox Valley according to my local police force and our area wide drug enforcement unit. In fact, there has been only one instance of diversion of a controlled medication investigated by either agency in the last three years and that was an Assisted Living Facility not a Skilled Nursing Facility. As was stated at the hearing, diversion is no more likely to occur in a nursing home than it is in any other setting. I would submit that our internal controls and procedures make it very difficult to commit diversion and more difficult to continue diversion as evidenced by the virtual absence of policy activity in this area. We take the management of controlled medications seriously; our hope is that the DEA will take our patient's pain needs just as seriously. ------ Mr. Warnock's Responses to Senator Brownback's Questions Question. It is acceptable for nurses in long-term care to take phone and ``chart orders'' for all other medications and treatments--antibiotics, anti-coagulants, insulin, etc. Some of these medications have life threatening implications if the order is incorrect and/or administered inappropriately. Given the dispensing controls that are in place for narcotics, can't we accomplish the same physician involvement by having them sign the ``chart order'' with the required information during their next visit without requiring the extra step of a retail prescription form? Answer. Yes, it is acceptable for all non-controlled drugs to be ordered verbally and chart orders are the official orders for these drugs. I agree that we could treat controlled drugs just as we do all other drugs and the risk of diversion would not change appreciably. Question. Do you think it is time to change the CSA act to reflect the practice of Long Term Care, similar to what occurs in hospitals? The hospital nurse is employed by the hospital, yet can take orders for narcotics over the phone without the need for a written or verbal prescription to the pharmacist. Answer. Yes, I believe this is the most reasonable and easily implemented solution to this issue. I only hope we can find a path to accomplish this change quickly so we can move forward with better care of our patients more quickly. ------ Ms. Phillips Responses to Senator Brownback's Questions Question. It is acceptable for nurses in long-term care to take phone and ``chart orders'' for all other medications and treatments--antibiotics, anti-coagulants, insulin, etc. Some of these medications have life threatening implications if the order is incorrect and/or administered inappropriately. Given the dispensing controls that are in place for narcotics, can't we accomplish the same physician involvement by having them sign the ``chart order'' with the required information during their next visit without requiring the extra step of a retail prescription form? Answer. Yes, we can give telephone orders for these other medications and yes, they often DO have life-threatening implications if not administered correctly, And yes, one piece of what we are saying is that we (physicians) do have to sign the orders within 7 days and thus would also have to sign any orders for narcotics ordered as well. There is a check and balance process in place. Every verbal order must be signed and the pharmacy will not release meds without an order--so even if the nurse were diverting, it would be identified when the physician was asked to sign the order. Question. Do you think it is time to change the CSA act to reflect the practice of Long Term Care, similar to what occurs in hospitals? The hospital nurse is employed by the hospital, yet can take orders for narcotics over the phone without the need for a written or verbal prescription to the pharmacist. Answer. Yes, very much. What we are hoping is that the nurse will become the ``agent'' as it is in the hospital. ------ Mr. Brickley's Responses to Senator Brownback's Question Question. It is acceptable for nurses in long-term care to take phone and ``chart orders'' for all other medications and treatments--antibiotics, anti-coagulants, insulin, etc. Some of these medications have life threatening implications if the order is incorrect and/or administered inappropriately. Given the dispensing controls that are in place for narcotics, can't we accomplish the same physician involvement by having them sign the ``chart order'' with the required information during their next visit without requiring the extra step of a retail prescription form? Answer. The current monthly physician order sheet recaps do not contain all of the data required by the DEA (i.e. quantity, DEA #, patient address, Physician address etc..) Although we could ask 70-80 software companies to re-design the monthly physician order re-caps, there is still the patient care barriers for new controlled substance orders for existing or new admissions to the long term care facilities. Only by getting the DEA to recognize a nurse as the agent of the prescriber and to recognize a ``chart order'' as a valid prescription order will be able to promptly dispense controlled substances for these frail, elderly residents. Question. Do you think it is time to change the CSA act to reflect the practice of Long Term Care, similar to what occurs in hospitals? The hospital nurse is employed by the hospital, yet can take orders for narcotics over the phone without the need for a written or verbal prescription to the pharmacist. Answer. Yes, it is clearly time to update the Controlled Substance Act to reflect the practice standards that are being followed in LTC facilities. The chart orders and medical record systems are very similar to a hospital setting so it makes sense to modify the CSA to treat LTC facilities similar to hospitals. Mr. Rannazzisi's Responses to Senator Brownback's Questions Question. It is acceptable for nurses in long-term care to take phone and ``chart orders'' for all other medications and treatments-antibiotics, anti-coagulants, insulin, etc. Some of these medications have life threatening implications if the order is incorrect and/or administered inappropriately. Given the dispensing controls that are in place for narcotics, can't we accomplish the same physician involvement by having them sign the ``chart order'' with the required information during their next visit without requiring the extra step of a retail prescription form? Answer. A proper response to this question requires two important distinctions be made: (1) the statutory and regulatory scheme applicable to controlled substances includes stringent controls not applicable to-- non-controlled substances; and (2) the characteristics of a physician's order for a substance to be dispensed to a patient, and the circumstances surrounding that order, determine whether the order is deemed a ``chart order'' or a ``prescription,'' which in turn determines whether dispensing a controlled substance is authorized under the Controlled Substances Act (CSA). Even after meeting all applicable requirements under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act controlled substance medications can only be dispensed to patients pursuant to the stringent controls imposed by the CSA, because controlled substances (as opposed to non-controlled substances) have the potential for abuse, and are frequently diverted into the illicit market. Next, an appreciation for the differences between a ``chart order'' and a ``prescription'' is necessary. A Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA)-registered hospital is a ``practitioner'' within the meaning of the CSA; therefore it is permissible for such a hospital to dispense controlled substances directly to patients without a prescription. Because of this, in a hospital setting, a hospital may dispense a controlled substance for immediate administration to a patient pursuant to an order for medication made by a physician who is an agent or employee of the DEA-registered hospital. This may occur, for example, through the issuance of a ``chart order.'' In this context, the term ``chart order'' should be distinguished from the term ``prescription.'' A prescription, unlike a chart order, must contain all of the information specified in 21 C.F.R. 1306.05, including, among other things, the signature of the physician on the day that the order is authorized. Unlike hospitals, Long Term Care Facilities (LTCFs) are not DEA registrants. Therefore, if a ``chart order'' at a LTCF contains all of the required elements of a prescription, including the signature of a physician on the day that the order is signed, then the chart order itself could serve as a valid prescription. The required elements, which are set forth in 21 C.F.R. 1306.05, are as follows:Signature of issuing practitioner Date of issuance (which must be the same day that the prescription is signed) Full name and address of patient Drug name Strength Dosage form Quantity prescribed Directions for use Name, address, and DEA registration number of issuing practitioner Depending on the schedule of the drug, there may also be time limitations on how long a prescription is valid as well as the number of refills. For example, under 21 CFR 1306.22(a), ``No prescription for a controlled substance listed in Schedule III or IV shall be filled or refilled more than six months after the date on which such prescription was issued and no such prescription authorized to be refilled may be refilled more than five times.'' Additionally, the determination that use of a controlled substance is medically necessary in any particular case must be made by a practitioner acting in the usual course of professional practice. See United States v. Moore, 423 U.S. 122 (1975); 21 CFR 1306.04(a). Such determinations cannot be delegated to LTCF staff. Practically speaking, though, chart orders at non-DEA registered LTCFs typically do not contain all of these required elements of a prescription. In particular, chart orders at LTCFs often lack the signature of the issuing practitioner, which is critical to substantiate that he/she did in fact authorize controlled substance medication(s) for a specific legitimate medical need. Prescriptions must contain all of the elements listed above primarily because controlled substances, in contrast to non- controlled substances such as antibiotics, anti-coagulants, and insulin, have potential for abuse and are frequently diverted into the illicit market. Therefore, the dispensing of controlled substances is generally subject to tighter controls and more regulatory oversight than non-controlled substances. Question. Do you think it is time to change the CSA act to reflect the practice of Long Term Care, similar to what occurs in hospitals? The hospital nurse is employed by the hospital, yet can take orders for narcotics over the phone without the need for a written or verbal prescription to the pharmacist. Answer. The CSA already allows for such a result if the relevant state has granted controlled substance authority to LTCFs in the same way it does for hospitals. Hospitals have state controlled substance authority, and are registered with the DEA--commensurate with that authority--to handle controlled substances. Individual states make the determination whether to issue licenses to qualified persons or facilities to handle controlled substances and under what limitations, and DEA registered practitioners may only engage in those activities that are authorized under state law for the jurisdiction in which they are located. If an LTCF were to satisfy a state's requirements for licensure as a hospital, such an LTCF could apply for DEA registration similar to that of a hospital. If so, registration of the LTCF by DEA would permit independent controlled substance authority, allow the facility to maintain a common stock of controlled substances on the premises, and the LTCF may be able to utilize chart orders like a hospital if allowed under state law and commensurate with federal regulations. Registration by DEA would also subject the facility to DEA oversight, recordkeeping requirements, and security requirements. In order for this option to be fully realized, however, states would first need to enact laws or regulations to permit this type of activity by LTCFs. Nonetheless, even in the absence of state authorization in this area, the current statutory and regulatory regime provides practitioners and pharmacists with a wide variety of means to deliver controlled substances both safely and timely to residents of LTCFs. Over the years DEA has implemented regulations, consistent with the CSA, that were specifically tailored to assist practitioners and pharmacists by making it easier to prescribe and dispense controlled substances to residents of LTCFs. Currently, several options exist for a practitioner to prescribe controlled substances to their patient in a LTCF setting. The following is a summary of existing regulatory exceptions made to ensure that residents' medical needs at LTCFs are met: For a controlled substance in schedules II-V a practitioner can manually write a prescription for his or her patient. The prescription must be dated as of the date signed, and is required to contain specific information including: name and address of the patient; drug name and strength; dosage form; quantity prescribed; directions for use; and name, address, and DEA number of issuing practitioner. 21 C.F.R. 1306.05(a). The CSA provides that a controlled substance in schedule II--the most stringent schedule for substances having a medicinal purpose and high abuse potential--may only be dispensed pursuant to a written prescription of a practitioner. 21 U.S.C. 829(a). However, should an emergency situation arise, this statutory provision contains an exception that allows practitioners to issue emergency oral prescriptions with the regulatory requirement that the oral prescription be immediately reduced to writing by the pharmacist and contain all the information required for a written prescription, except for the signature of the prescribing individual practitioner, and must be followed up within seven days by a written prescription from the practitioner to the dispensing pharmacy. To facilitate the receipt of controlled substances under these circumstances, DEA has allowed pharmacies to establish ``emergency kits'' in the LTCF that are routinely stocked with commonly dispensed controlled substances. These kits are extensions of the pharmacy and are controlled under the pharmacy's DEA registration. Another means by which residents can receive medications more efficiently is a federal regulation that contains a provision specifically designed to accommodate LTCFs. The regulation provides for the dispensing of controlled substances on the premises of a LTCF through the use of an automated dispensing machine. Such dispensing must still be accomplished via a legitimate prescription, but places the supply of controlled substances on location for convenient dispensing to a patient. 21 C.F.R. 1301.27. Though practitioners cannot issue refills for schedule II controlled substance prescriptions, DEA has implemented a regulation that allows practitioners to issue multiple prescriptions authorizing a patient to receive up to a 90-day supply for these substances. 21 CFR 1306.12. An exception for delivery of a schedule II prescription to a pharmacy for LTCFs also exists at 21 CFR 1306.11(f). Under this regulation a written prescription containing all the information required by 21 C.F.R. 1306.05, including the signature of the practitioner, may be transmitted via fax by the practitioner or practitioner's agent. Partial filling of schedule II prescriptions is also allowed for LTCF residents or an individual with a terminal illness as long as the amount dispensed does not exceed the total amount prescribed and occurs within 60 days (21 CFR 1306.l3(b). Schedule III-V prescriptions may also be written but may be refilled up to five times in a six-month period as directed by the prescriber. A fax of a written schedule III-V prescription may also be transmitted to a pharmacy by the practitioner or the practitioner's agent. Prescriptions for schedule III-V substances may also be orally transmitted by the practitioner to a pharmacy. Partial filling is also permissible for schedule III-V prescriptions not to exceed six months from date of issuance. DEA has also published an Interim Final Rule allowing for the electronic prescribing of controlled substances. The effective date of this rule was June 1, 2010. This rule provides yet another tool for practitioners to use when prescribing a controlled substance for their patient, including those who reside in an LTCF. This rule allows practitioners to use a computer, laptop or PDA device to send a prescription to a pharmacy from a remote location instantaneously. Mr. Catizone's Responses to Senator Brownback's Questions Question. It is acceptable for nurses in long-term care to take phone and ``chart orders'' for all other medications and treatments--antibiotics, anti-coagulants, insulin, etc. Some of these medications have life threatening implications if the order is incorrect and/or administered inappropriately. Given the dispensing controls that are in place for narcotics, can't we accomplish the same physician involvement by having them sign the ``chart order'' with the required information during their next visit without requiring the extra step of a retail prescription form? Answer. The question involves an area of expertise best answered by the DEA. Our understanding is that the Controlled Substances (CSA) and accompanying regulations specifically prohibit the activities noted. Question. Do you think it is time to change the CSA act to reflect the practice of Long Term Care, similar to what occurs in hospitals? The hospital nurse is employed by the hospital, yet can take orders for narcotics over the phone without the need for a written or verbal prescription to the pharmacist. Answer. NABP believes that the CSA has been effective in protecting patients and combating drug diversion since its creation and adoption. However, pharmacy practice in long term care and other settings has changed dramatically since the inception of the CSA more than 30 years ago. The member State Boards of NABP are requesting a review of the CSA and amendments to recognize the changes in pharmacy practice across all settings, including long term care. 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